Azleya

Are you fucking kidding me? Procs don't proc procs, noob.

Troub haste is completely unnecessary for a ranger with illu in group.

Dirges give DA and casting haste, too.

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Notsovilepriest

Troub also give DA and and cast speed that stacks, Fine Procs don't proc proc's, but your snare that you should be maintaining along with a couple other of your attacks will proc it too upping your DPS a lot, but the troub in that group set up is mainly for the Illy and partially for the dirge to proc while debuffing IMO.

Azleya

Rangers have a few abilities that will proc spell procs, yes, but even casting them religiously a ranger will still get only negligible dps from aria. Personally, I don't even cast my snare most of the time because I have better shit to cast and heat mit debuffs I think basically cap with brig and wizard debuffs. The only abilities I use regularly that can proc it are my defense debuff, surveil, and hawk.

And I was referring to the setup posted in which the ranger was in group 4 with just the troub and illu for support. If he was in group 3, it would of course be an amazing group for the ranger (though I am personally capped on DA with just 1 bard and illu), but again excessive on the support side. Yea, adding the troub to the dirge/illu setup gives better buffs to the dirge and illu (and others in group), but you're sacrificing a spot that could instead be another high dps scout that parses extremely well in the stacked scout group, and so it's an excessive and bloated setup imo.

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Notsovilepriest

Talking about 2 different groups, My bad :-P

IMO you should use the snare more often, The Wiz Debuff has to land for it to cap it, The debuff has a lower chance of landing their the Wiz's Attacks which is why most Wiz's /boggle that. At least cast it on Inc and the wiz should have easier time landing the debuff and then from there on out the ability refreshes before the duration making it easier for the wiz to maintain the debuff. Just my thoughts.

Slippery

Procs don't proc procs.

Lynch

lol

Troub in ranger in same group is gay?

I thought you meant that rangers were gay (men in tights) and troubs were gay (Michael Bolton) so both in the same group would be SUPER gay, possibly effecting the non-gayness of other group members.


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Azleya

I'm not going to lie, this is a serious possibility.

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Thundolfe

Just to get a little back on track, how would you rearrange this for max dps? We have a bit of a rotating roster (it's several guilds) but a lot of these are core people. The screenshot I have is of pre-raid and most groups were not arranged at all yet.

Thanks

MT
Guard
Dirge
Coercer
Defiler
Warden
Inq (usually a temp but in my screenshot she was in MT, I think we were flopping a bunch of people around)

Zerk
Necro
Necro
Conj
Fury
Wizard

Monk
Swash
Ass
Ranger
Dirge
Warden

Guard
Monk
Wizard
Brig
Ranger
Temp

Torrent

Ouch, that's a tough one, you don't have nearly enough support classes. A troubie and and illy or two would help you guys a ton. Though I know if you have solid friends you raid with it's hard to cut folks. Just try to bring one of those classes in the next time you have some natural attrition. You also really need a solid OT group with a second shaman, preferably a mystic. I'm not really seeing one here.

MT
Guard
Dirge
Defiler
Warden
Templar
Swash

Wizard
Necro
Conj
Fury
Wizard
Ass

Monk
Necro
Ranger
Warden
Coercer
Zerker

Guard
Monk
Brig
Ranger
Inq
Dirge

Klug

Assuming you're going to need an OT group, and given the lack of support classes (bard/enchanter).
Not an ideal setup by any stretch.
Get some folks to roll up a Bard and/or Enchanter


MT
Guard
Temp
Defiler
Dirge
Coercer
Ass

OT
Guard
Monk
Inq
Warden
Dirge
Swash

Zerk
Monk
Warden
Ranger
Ranger
Wizard

Fury
Conj
Necro
Necro
Wizard
Brig

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