Thundolfe

Thanks for the replies, and I know we are definitely missing classes, but we have what we have at this point. We're progressing through kor-sha though so we're not doing too badly, lots of competent peeps.

firamas

4 bards, 4 chanters, 3-4 fighters, 6-7 healers

that should be your core. get those prerequisites online every night (and dont exceed those numbers in a 24 man raid)... then fill in the rest from there.

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Kanlaeel

3-4 fighters? most fights you need 1 fighter, though an off tank is deffinatly nice, however very rarely do you ever need 3 tanks and though i havnt been to anything higher then Kor-sha i cant think of a single fight where you'd need 4 (not saying there are none, but i havnt seen any)

i'd change that to 4 enchanters, 4 bards, 2 fighters (cause the original question was most fights, not specific scripted fights) and 6 healers.

that way you'd have your tank, 2 healers, bard, enchanter, and hate transfer scout in group 1, ot, 2 healers, bard, enchanter, and scout in group 2, 3 scouts, bard, enchanter and healer in group 3, 3 mages, bard enchanter and healer in group 4.

Jesum

you are leaving out your monk.

Paperclip

Aye. MT, OT, and Monk.

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Thelounge

Might be late, but i wanted to add...

I usually had a Ranger in my group prolly 80% of the time throughout all of the guilds I was in during the first 7-8 Months of EoF (I left the game after that)

I also like Kall's group setup, we never had the ability to put a dirge in our group 3 when I played. Would have been awesome for me tho

Is good to see the group setup changing, always thought some of you guys (like pinski, sorry but you are so analytical/precise) would be stuck in their old ways

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firamas

I don't think the OP is in a guild that's farming endgame content atm, hence I offered the standard "core" requirements. More of a general guideline. And 3-4 fighters is a good starting point. Unless your players are all 95%+ attendance, you want at least 4 geared and experienced tanks available, so that 3 can be in raid at any time. On fights that REQUIRE a MT/OT combo, you need the ability for another fighter to jump in if someone dies, so having only 2 in raid is risky. Ideally the OT group would contain both of the intended OT's, so the buffs, healing, and aggro could be smoothly managed. 2 healers each in MT/OT group, 1 per DPS group.

Oh, and just be willing to be flexible! Don't get in the mindset that "we need exactly this [xxx,yyy,zzz] formula" or we can't do this encounter. You'd be surprised what non-standard setups can do. Shit, last night our usual MT wasn't on so our monk tanked Tangrin. Was just as smooth as if the guardian did it. That's the same monk that can pull near-T1 DPS if he's filling that role elsewhere. Don't pigeonhole people. =)

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Thundaarr

Late to the game, but I'm always a big fan of raid group set up threads :p

I would have assassin in group 2 instead of Illy. Illy isn't gonna be able to do nearly the dps in that group as they would be able to do with a trouby, and assassin would be lovin the zerk procs and CoB. I would probably have inquis in group 2 as well, just for the dps lovin.

kanolth

Zerker for OT?! Nothing beats a crusader for OT tbh.

Our guild shadow knight is a god with dealing with massive add encounters like OK, not to mention his survivability on par with our MT.

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Thundaarr

Yeah Kanolth, I tend to aggree with that. Crusaders are some of the best OT's out there. I personally would go with a paladin, but a well played SK can rock, and have great survivability (bloodletter rocks)

I was merely responding to Kaif's set up, zerks are great for melee and OT groups as well though, because zerk proc is nice, and they have great survivability. The only thing zerks lack as an OT is a great snap aggro tool that refreshes a little quicker.