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Hoss

Just went back and reread this and it made me wonder. How much DPS are guilds doing now? 100-120 doesn't exactly sound gimp to me.


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Azleya

Because the wizard is a fucking amends bitch obviously. He can fucking suck up the minor inconvenience of having a coercer instead of an illusionist rather than forcing the raid to gimp itself for his benefit.

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Dedaehder

SK setup would fail... they would be to EMO and just bleed all over the mobs.

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bighead222ed

First of all, this set up s from guilds that are top in...so they will have the pick of the best of the best players! no 17 great ones and 10 other to fill raid. 2nd your doing 120 k raid is actually pretty decent. those doing 200k are killing and have been killing avatars, and have cleared alot of the newer zone for longer times..

Then there is set ups, a lot of what they say are true 4 enchanter 4 bard..will make raid dps go up! Also do you have the right set ups to do that!
At same time your not going to be able to do that till, timing of every one in groups and raid are in sequence. Also how many in raid have masterered out toons, how many are useing grey spell on hot bar... how many are afk Af during fightl, how many just are plain useless as player and fuck up all the time.... in a hgiher end raid guild that is not an issue, but when your not those (certain) guild it is!

you can change all the set up you want untill you have the cream of the crop of players! 120 k dps is good.. some guild cant even hit 50 k still....those whom hit 200k are few very few, they also make your best geared player look crappy!

That will 2 cents. thanks!

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Milambers

better fucking not be you hacker.

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Perm

Too bad it would look like this.

Good SK
Terrible SK
Terrible SK
Terrible SK
Decent SK
Terrible SK

Terrible SK
Terrible SK
Terrible SK
Terrible SK
Awesome SK
Terrible SK

Terrible SK
Terrible SK
Retarded SK
Terrible SK
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Terrible SK
Terrible SK
Decent SK
Terrible SK
Terrible SK
Terrible SK

Sad thing it would still work.

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Warden
Defiler
Templar
Dirge
Coercer

Shadowknight
Inquisitor
Coercer
Swashbuckler
Dirge
Brigand

Illusionist
Troubador
Dirge
Wizard
Ranger
Templar

Illusionist
Troubador
Ranger
Wizard
Brigand
Templar

Any questions? If you really want ROA more switch out a mystic for either Temp in the DPS group, but I have always pref'd a templar. Yes there's only one shaman and one druid, you only need one. Yes there's no assassin either.

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Lyger

you sure have a thing for templars

unless your MT healers suck, you don't need a warden in there either, wasted DPS/utility 99.9% of the time like, i don't know, maybe a fucking assassin and you just added 13k+ raid dps for a useless spot(yes he will be gimped in the MT group but so what).