Pheelin

bet you have the sarnak with the other bows t8 ammo..... that is the ONLY way a ranger will be comparable to assassins anything short of that we suck...

i dont have my zone wide dps but id say in labs im around 1100 without that bow and the ammo tops for me ive seen 1500

kinda unfair that as a ranger a supposed T1 dps class we have to have that setup to do anything... but an assassin can do what we do easy with treasured weapons..

Snark

I love this statement and had to quote it.

Why?

Because its fucking retarded if its serious OR sarcastic.

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Petgroup

I said it because of the recent theme of posts that Rangers and Swashbucklers are useless raid classes and being outparsed by everyone.

Snark

Yes, we all know you fail to grasp even the most fundamental concepts of said posts, what's your point.

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Yeah, I totally miss the point on any of them.

Heres me :

I have to agree here totally with PG
I agree with most everything nikecmh42

People basing opinions on FD mobs being copied and pasted into EoF. Nobody knows that yet. AR owns, I know that. There are plenty of other skills that own also. Rangers are far from suking, from seeing how ours does. Its all about the player, playing the toon.

Kokusho

That would explain it Rhaz

Reix

Have a Ranger in guild that parses pretty high, usually top 3, but most(not all) the time parses below the Assassin.

Where as we also have a second Ranger in guild who is typically 2-4 slots down the list. So I would have to agree that a really skilled Ranger can do some pretty decent dps, it's just a little dissapointing that Assassins are generally more consistantly on top, usually by a pretty big gap.

And yea, both our Rangers have a Bazkul.

Kobal

It basically comes down to they balanced rangers around t8 summoned ammo. I can parse in the 1200-1300 range with my grizzel or wurmjunk bows but hitting the 1600-1700 zone wides is going to require t8 ammo and one of the 2 high end bows.

I really think they should make lvl 70 ammo avalible on the merchant for purchase or at the very least craftable. The summoned would still be better as it is legendary but its just pretty lame that a ranger gets a minimum of 30% dps increase from just getting the ammo and useing the exact same bow.

I hear there will be allot of bows dropping in the next expansion. My question is will it even matter if you dont get a bow from dt to use for ammo?

Faabio

Assassins rely on their weapons almost as much as you rely on your bow, I don't want to hear that shit.

An assassin in treasured gear is going to get like 800 dps.

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Fabio thats bullshit man in order for a ranger to get summoned ammo to compete he can get it off 2 mobs. So if you want to compair the amount of duel weilders to the amount of bows with summoned ammo then you can come on here and say its equal ground i mean come on. I think your missing the obvious here.

Granted an assassin with legendary and a ranger with grizzle will probably be in the similar area of dps. Not to mention an assassin can do 2 quests and get 2 decent weapons without even having them drop (wyrmslayer, claymore reward) are those the best in the game hell no. But you'd still own any ranger with a grizzlefazzle with those 2 weapons. Which is a fair comparison because there all quested not a rare drop!!!

I mean would assassins like it if the only way they could do t1 dps is if they looted a dagger that was a very rare drop off 2 mob in dt.... and once they had this dagger they'd then have to get another one to use the blade with lol? Not to mention compete with 8 other classes to get the dagger? And dont tell me an assassin cant compete with 2 shit fabled duel weilders from labs if they were 2 lazy to do wyrmslayer which is considered pretty darn nice as a duel weild.

I think that summoned ammo is fuckin stupid im all with a rare bow but come the fuck on you get summoned ammo off some pos short bow that ups your dps by 30% and sits in your fuckin bag thats just dumb.