Tank balance are we there?

Davngr · 05-09-2009, 03:35 PM

so i got into an argument with a dude that plays an SK on the 70-79, he claims that tank balance is fine as it is now and i say guards need a lil love specially non-raid guards.

i suggest giving guards back some of their lost DA while wearing a shield and maybe giving guards another AOE agro tool since AE tanks got at least one from New TSO AA.

after all Devs decided that tanks would be classified as AE and SINGLE target yet AE tanks can hold agro just as well as guards rigth now, yet guards are well behind on AOE agro in compareson.

Darktizzle · 05-09-2009, 03:40 PM

non raiding guards dont matter.

Davngr · 05-09-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Darktizzle

non raiding guards dont matter.

Orly? why is that? people don't have alts they run instances with ? how exactly does the other 90% of guards not matter?

either way i don't raid my guard but i can tell you for a FACT that every tank out there can hold single target agro as well as a guard and that goes for raid guards too.

LordRoache · 05-09-2009, 04:17 PM

i think its about time guards have gotten some stick in the ass

remember rok when no one played anything other than guard -- when every zerker betrayed because they were gimped and people laughed at anyone who played an SK--i dont even know if SK's actually existed a year ago

fuck homo guards

Davngr · 05-09-2009, 04:25 PM

yea but i don't remember any guards saying fuck emo SK's seriously every post i ever saw said they needed some fixing and now that soe went too far with the nerf bat on guards every idiot feels the need to say there is no need.. so that's why i made this post to get the idiots to post why thre is no need, lets have it out maybe im wrong

it's called game balance no one here is asking for nerfs just some tweaking

Vormav · 05-09-2009, 04:45 PM

Just spec your guard with the 40% multimob auto attack thats it ;p

Mezelline · 05-09-2009, 04:49 PM

Current tank balance isn't great, but its closer to optimal than it has ever been. I only see two changes necessary.

1. Guardians need a slight boost in survivability to consolidate their "defensive tank status"; the last thing they need is more DPS to return to the ubertanks that they were in EoF/RoK.

2. Berserkers need a slight boost in dps to consolidate their "offensive tank status"; the past two expansions have been pushing Berserkers far too much towards a vanilla tanking experience.

It is also necessary for paladins to either keep amends or have it replaced with a similar ability that will allow them to continue their dominance at both single target and unlocked AE aggro control.

SKs are fine as they are right now as a jack-of-all-trades, but the above two changes need to be made so they are also the-master-of-none.

I think it would be much easier to make these two changes rather than nerf the other three classes x2 to rebalance, because over/under nerfing is bound to happen when you make across-the-board changes.

Davngr · 05-09-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vormav

Just spec your guard with the 40% multimob auto attack thats it ;p

i am man im just saying guards need some more DA or single target control of sorts right now all the AE tanks are doing the same single target threat as gaurds

edit. typo

Davngr · 05-09-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mezelline

Current tank balance isn't great, but its closer to optimal than it has ever been. I only see two changes necessary.

1. Guardians need a slight boost in survivability to consolidate their "defensive tank status"; the last thing they need is more DPS to return to the ubertanks that they were in EoF/RoK.

2. Berserkers need a slight boost in dps to consolidate their "offensive tank status"; the past two expansions have been pushing Berserkers far too much towards a vanilla tanking experience.

It is also necessary for paladins to either keep amends or have it replaced with a similar ability that will allow them to continue their dominance at both single target and unlocked AE aggro control.

SKs are fine as they are right now as a jack-of-all-trades, but the above two changes need to be made so they are also the-master-of-none.

I think it would be much easier to make these two changes rather than nerf the other three classes x2 to rebalance, because over/under nerfing is bound to happen when you make across-the-board changes.

i totaly agree not asking for any nerfs

just made this thread to deal with jack asses that consider everything is ok as long as their class is doing fine

i really don't think survivability is an issue for guard at lest not in my experiance but i do think guards need to domitate single targets hands down.. right now any tank can control a single target as well as guard and AE tanks are controling everything period.. again not asking for anything to be nerfed just feel guards need some love in that area and some DA/damg boot (with shield) would hit spot of course i dont raid nor do i ever plan to raid my guard so im purely speaking from an alt instance tank prospective.

Darktizzle · 05-09-2009, 07:18 PM

everything is ok. Really, better than ever.