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Old 06-20-2007, 09:57 PM  
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Default Hate nerf...un-nerfed?

Today all the hate transfers, deagros, etc were all changed back to what they previously were. Think it will stay? thoughts?
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Old 06-20-2007, 10:43 PM  
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maybe waiting on #37 to fix it? I was wondering why they'd do that too, since some of the changes were actually making sense.

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Old 06-20-2007, 11:17 PM  
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It'll stick. Its never been SOEs trend to make the game more difficult, and if these changes were to go live, thats just what some ppl would claim. Im not saying that it would in fact make it more difficult, but it would have possibly drawn a big line between the skilled, and the not so skilled players. With of course the not so skilled players ranting about how hard its become to control a mob.
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Old 06-21-2007, 03:51 AM  
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Maybe they read how stupid and game changing their changes were and decided to slowly move that shit in there instead of dropping a tonneload of shit on us in one LU.
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:51 AM  
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Maybe they read how stupid and game changing their changes were and decided to slowly move that shit in there instead of dropping a tonneload of shit on us in one LU.
I doubt that very much. They may indeed bring some of this back later, but they didn't remove it so that they weren't putting too much into one LU.

I also doubt that any clamoring from the playerbase had much to do with it as well. Lockeye has struck me as a person who analyzes an aspect of the game, makes changes to correct a perceived imbalance, then sees what happens in response in game play. People will rant/complain/etc. regardless of the change, so that can be ignored. It is what actually happens in game play that matters.
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Old 06-21-2007, 12:45 PM  
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Who knows, maybe the guilds that got transfered over to test out the new zone had too much trouble testing it and the changes with hate changes simultaneously so they decided to maybe test/release the new zone then implement the changes afterwards. Maybe not necessarily trouble testing but more gadging the difficulty of the encounters since they were having to factor in the changes at the same time. I'd imagine some guilds have completly relied on how aggro works currently to achieve these high dps burns and when those mechanics were lessened, so were thier burns. This is all speculation though.
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:06 PM  
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I'd guess they put hategain / -transfer on the same curve the did with haste / dps an will do for crits...
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:31 PM  
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Alls I have to say is thank god I mean with the buckler changes whatever will Guardians do for aggro :P

Seriously though I wouldnt doubt we see them get nerfed as soon as RoK goes live which will give the upgraded versions of these roughly the same xfer values. I mean think about 35% transfers from swashies or assassins that will make it just to easy. This way if they nerf it then a little grinding you get the upgrade back to the mid 20% xfer rate and all will be the same.
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I doubt that very much. They may indeed bring some of this back later, but they didn't remove it so that they weren't putting too much into one LU.

I also doubt that any clamoring from the playerbase had much to do with it as well. Lockeye has struck me as a person who analyzes an aspect of the game, makes changes to correct a perceived imbalance, then sees what happens in response in game play. People will rant/complain/etc. regardless of the change, so that can be ignored. It is what actually happens in game play that matters.
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Maybe they read how stupid and game changing their changes were and decided to slowly move that shit in there instead of dropping a tonneload of shit on us in one LU.
You're so Canadian.... its TONLOAD! Not with those extra letters. sheesh!
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