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    Default dance of metal and sundar

    i been messing around for awhile now a casting order with dom and trying to end it with sundar. I have found ending it with sundar it doesnt hit as hard. any reason why?

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    Default Re: dance of metal and sundar

    Trying clicking your combat arts harder, does more damage.

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    Default Re: dance of metal and sundar

    Well first parses would help to see how much your hitting for, and what is your rotation i mean like are you using your mitigation debuffs as you bring DoM up or are you trying for straight up raw DPS from licking random CAs



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    Default Re: dance of metal and sundar

    Why did you not go to the associated class forum? /facepalm
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    Default Re: dance of metal and sundar

    Welcome to Flames! I will add that technically this is a Rogue question so maybe he was confused as to where he put it.
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    Default Re: dance of metal and sundar

    This should have been in the swashy or brig forum, but in my experience, what CAs you use will not affect the damage DoM does. I use my mit debuffs (kidney stab and flurry of blades), eviscerate (agi boost), and thieving essence (ability mod buff) all before I start DoM. My first hit is sunder if it's up, but I also just throw sunder in whenever during a fight, as long as I know I'll have 15-20s mostly uninterrupted on a mob. I don't have parses on hand to back that up, but it's easy enough to test for yourself.
    Last edited by Akamar; 03-20-2012 at 10:03 AM.

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    Default Re: dance of metal and sundar

    you guys do know that physical mit cap is around 5k (non-diminishing)- (iirc). 2 bards can maintaine that. your debuffs are merely CA. im the only Swash to really spec 10 points in DoM instead of TE. i get to use it more often and stoneskins for big AE hits can mostly survivie. hell i probably can use it 3 times in a fight even short fights because of the small amount of reuse.


    i would go TE. but im not going to min/max for 5%. turns into what i assume is over 200+CB you see upwards of a whole 1% dps increase. if that. which is why potency plays a larger role in the long run. if you can be 250+ CB self buffed you should focus on potency, the curve is different than that of CB (iirc)

    i dont mind being corrected if im wrong about the cap, so feel free to agree or disagree just explain why so i can have a better understanding, but im pretty sure all what's said is accurate
    Last edited by Venser; 03-24-2012 at 06:34 PM.
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    Default Re: dance of metal and sundar

    You kinda lost me on the min/max 5% part, but TE with points in the heroic tree now debuffs the mob by 7.5% potency and gives your group 7.5 potency.

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    Default Re: dance of metal and sundar

    oh is that on test, then that's worth using. i mean min/maxing because 200+ CB starts the curve where potency comes into play as being key since it has no curve (iirc).

    so if you did some formula testing, you'll see if you have lets just say 200CB self buffed and 205% Potency self buffed, you can see that potency starts becoming better for your DPS. unless you're 250+ CB self buffed then yeah that helps. but calculating those numbers is barely a 1% ZW increase for you VS potency is giving me up to 2%+ increase if i were 200 205.
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    I finally looked through the parses again to see where I stood. Venser is a mother fucking beast. Nice work man.


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    Default Re: dance of metal and sundar

    Gotcha. The TE change went to live with the removal of crit mit.

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