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Old 07-06-2009, 12:54 AM  
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Incorrect, it's quite resistable.

ah don't you guys have an irristable spell? i was sure it was your slow mabe not
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:18 AM  
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Effigy is conjurer's irresistable dot. Or fiery annihilalalalation, sigh.
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:44 PM  
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I disagree about Blaze first, Plane Shift second. If you have the 4 set TSO bonus, casting Blaze after Plane Shift means that the base damage from Plane Shift affects Blaze (Blaze is only modified by your pet's base damage, not your personal base damage).
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:35 PM  
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I disagree about Blaze first, Plane Shift second. If you have the 4 set TSO bonus, casting Blaze after Plane Shift means that the base damage from Plane Shift affects Blaze (Blaze is only modified by your pet's base damage, not your personal base damage).


BA is affected by PS base damage regardless if BA is casted befor or after PS is up.Its the same mechanic as any spell or spell based proc where it is modified by caster...which in tis point is the pet.The damage of the proc or spell is increased when + base damage is applied....in this case when cast Plane shift.

You gain zero with haveing PS up and wasteing up to 3.5 seconds of plane shift duration on prebuff by then casting BA after plane shift has been casted first.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:05 AM  
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BA is affected by PS base damage regardless if BA is casted befor or after PS is up.Its the same mechanic as any spell or spell based proc where it is modified by caster...which in tis point is the pet.The damage of the proc or spell is increased when + base damage is applied....in this case when cast Plane shift.

You gain zero with haveing PS up and wasteing up to 3.5 seconds of plane shift duration on prebuff by then casting BA after plane shift has been casted first.
unless pet procs BA before PS lands? (dont know how excactly it works. Does it proc off any spell the pet casts?)

since the item proc nerf, do you let WoV run its duration insted of cancle/reaply? and if so, have you put AA points in it over some other choice?
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:49 PM  
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unless pet procs BA before PS lands? (dont know how excactly it works. Does it proc off any spell the pet casts?)

since the item proc nerf, do you let WoV run its duration insted of cancle/reaply? and if so, have you put AA points in it over some other choice?
How is the pet gonna proc anything when you are prebuffing it and you havent engaged the mob yet?

Yeah let wov run unless if have jc or say max reuse.
Sure adding points to wov tick duration would yield ya more dps...just need to figure what your gonna lose and is it worth it.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:27 PM  
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Not enough crystal blast, that should come after every 1-2 spells when doing single targets.
I slightly disagree with you, I feel I can cast 3 to 4 spells before Crystal blasts comes up.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:50 PM  
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Things I noted:
You swarm pets can trigger a proc. I sent a swarm pet(singular fire) at a training dummy and just watched.
training dummy: (00:33) | 6991 | 212 | [Enymac-Greater Void Bane-616]
Enymac | 6991 | 212
Enymac's | 0 | 0

Here is the swarm pet
training dummy: (00:44) | 10684 | 243 | [Enymac-aqueous swarm's Elemental Netherbolt-648]
Enymac | 10684 | 243
Enymac's | 0 | 0

What is the adversion to not using our swarm pets if they trigger our procs?
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:03 PM  
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What is the adversion to not using our swarm pets if they trigger our procs?
You can cast a different spell and not only trigger a proc but also do significantly more damage. Swarms have such a short life span that it's a waste to cast a swarm pet over anything else in our spellbook, unless no other spell is up.

I don't know if swarms are even supposed to be able to proc things like the 5 set when they attack. Half the time they don't proc anything at all.

If your reuse is up to snuff, Crystal Blast is up every other spell cast. On raids my reuse for CB is usually 2.2-2.3 seconds without Jcap and Upbeat Tempo, which is about the ideal minimum recast speed for every-other-cast-is-CB.
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Old 07-18-2009, 06:14 AM  
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I slightly disagree with you, I feel I can cast 3 to 4 spells before Crystal blasts comes up.
This is not even remotly possible.
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