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Old 05-09-2009, 08:55 PM  
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I am a verteran of Mage play on EQ1 but a Newbie now to EQII. Anyway I've read a lot of discussion on advice for the Conjuror Tab of AA set up but how do you advise I spend my AA point on the summoners and shadows tabs. I have spent a point on 'posses minion' and now I have 4 track to choose from, can I only choose on path or some from all four or all from all four. And what about the shadows tab. Any advice or link to resources would be great. Thank to all!
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Thanks for the reply and link. Very helpful!
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:00 PM  
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Here's what I've been rolling with for awhile in my Conjuror tree. I'd dare say that if you have mythical and TSO 4-set, this is pretty much your ideal setup.

5 in Enhance: Summoning gets me back in action faster after I die or my pet dies (and my backup Dimensional Storage pet isn't available). 2 in Pyro simply to unlock Plane Shift (better than air pet or earth pet enhance). 5 in Plane Shift is there because it adds 5% base damage to the 4-set TSO Bonus. None in WoV because I believe toggling it is more DPS than letting it tick. And Hydromancer because I hit 200 AA and had nothing left to buy.

Only variant would be ditch Hydro, Stoneskin, and maybe Petrify and put points into Winds of Velious.
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I made a change in my set up and I like it alot better. In our Shadows line we are given a few choices. The common two choices are to spend the minimum 10 points in health (5) and power (5) increases. The power increase is a no brainer. There is another option which is, even more power and damage by adding intelligence with the diety pet. If we are soloing hitpoints are cool and all, but in groups or raids, that small amount of hitpoints is not as important as more power and intelligence, as well as a little extra damage if not capped.
Choose the 5 points in diety pet option over the health. It increases your intelligence from your diety pet which means more power. It also allows the diety pet to be cast faster. Seeing as how it takes forever to cast, this is awesome after your typical raid/group wipe.
This is of course assuming you have a diety pet. With the Ro pet and this option I get an extra 50 intelligence.

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I made a change in my set up and I like it alot better. In our Shadows line we are given a few choices. The common two choices are to spend the minimum 10 points in health (5) and power (5) increases. The power increase is a no brainer. There is another option which is, even more power and damage by adding intelligence with the diety pet. If we are soloing hitpoints are cool and all, but in groups or raids, that small amount of hitpoints is not as important as more power and intelligence, as well as a little extra damage if not capped.
Choose the 5 points in diety pet option over the health. It increases your intelligence from your diety pet which means more power. It also allows the diety pet to be cast faster. Seeing as how it takes forever to cast, this is awesome after your typical raid/group wipe.
This is of course assuming you have a diety pet. With the Ro pet and this option I get an extra 50 intelligence.

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except for the fact that that int once you hit 80 with shard gear and whatnot is more or less useless and it bumps the +int to what like 50? you are most likly way past the int cap which yes i know doesnt really exsist anymore but the int isnt going to add as much dmg or power as you would guess but the +2.5% will let you live longer in raids not much but a little bit more than not having it
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I made a change in my set up and I like it alot better. In our Shadows line we are given a few choices. The common two choices are to spend the minimum 10 points in health (5) and power (5) increases. The power increase is a no brainer. There is another option which is, even more power and damage by adding intelligence with the diety pet. If we are soloing hitpoints are cool and all, but in groups or raids, that small amount of hitpoints is not as important as more power and intelligence, as well as a little extra damage if not capped.
Choose the 5 points in diety pet option over the health. It increases your intelligence from your diety pet which means more power. It also allows the diety pet to be cast faster. Seeing as how it takes forever to cast, this is awesome after your typical raid/group wipe.
This is of course assuming you have a diety pet. With the Ro pet and this option I get an extra 50 intelligence.
This is bullshit advice.

2.5% power is more than the 5 points into the deity pet will get you, especially once you hit around 800 or 900 INT (which in full shard armor is basically what you're running). Let's not forget that the +Power also applies to +Power from gear and buffs as well.

Not to mention you need HP to live. That extra 2.5% HP is 2.5% more HP from +HP gear and +STA from gear and buffs, which adds up to several hundred HP (or even a thousand HP) in the end. With as frail as mages are, we need every ounce of HP we can get. Unless you like dying.

Allow me to demonstrate both points for you using my good friend the Test server.

Unbuffed and without points into any AAs in the TSO tree, I'm at 9997 HP and 11314 Power, and 1146 INT. Summon my deity pet, which adds +33 INT and my power goes to 11333.

I add 5 points to Hearty Constitution. My HP goes to 10235. I add 5 points to Enhanced Mind, my power goes to 11608.

I add 5 points to Pet of the Gods instead of Enhanced Mind, my power goes to 11341.

Whoopde doo, I just spent 5 points to boost my power pool by 8. It doesn't take a mathematician to show that 11608 > 11341.

Let's take it to the other extreme. Lets see what I am naked.

3363 HP, 2773 Power, 72 Int without deity pet, 2957 power 105 INT with deity pet up.

5 points into HP and 5 points into power: 3443 HP, 3029 Power.

5 points into Deity pet instead of Power: 3050 Power.

Whoopde doo, 5 points to boost my power pool by 21 at the extreme end. Slap on even a little bit of INT and Power gear and it's a net loss again:

Equip Mythical, 3460 power 136 int without deity pet, 3634 power 169 int with deity pet up. 5 into Power, 3723 Power. 5 into Deity pet instead, 3722. A net loss.
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Old 07-27-2009, 07:15 PM  
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except for the fact that that int once you hit 80 with shard gear and whatnot is more or less useless and it bumps the +int to what like 50? you are most likly way past the int cap which yes i know doesnt really exsist anymore but the int isnt going to add as much dmg or power as you would guess but the +2.5% will let you live longer in raids not much but a little bit more than not having it
Shard gear? I have 6 out of 7 T4 pieces and I still like that extra intel and I use Expert intelligent potions. I am more adorned than a freaking Christmas tree with intel buffs.
In any case, if I die, it normally is because the tank has fallen and cannot get up and not because of lack of 2.5% hitpoints. Ok on rare occasions somebody told a healer I flirted with her boyfriend. /Lies I tell you. /Wink. OmG /hugs
The important thing to me is after I Die, I can cast that diety pet faster as opposed to saying screw it.
I should also clarify. My Ro diety pet gives about 30 intel, with the boost it gives about 50 intel.
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Shard gear? I have 6 out of 7 T4 pieces and I still like that extra intel and I use Expert intelligent potions. I am more adorned than a freaking Christmas tree with intel buffs.
I'm about 300 points above INT cap on raids, and have been that way for a long time. If you're running around in 6 pieces of T4, you are too.

Again I say, your advice is bullshit.
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