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03-06-2008, 06:55 AM
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Re: Conjuror Bugs and concerns:
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Originally Posted by Terra
Basically, we stand to lose more aswell if the raidleader decides summoners have no spot in troub (and wizard) group when there's only 1 present.
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Good Point !
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03-06-2008, 09:58 AM
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Squishy does NOT mean useless...just check the Parse if you have questions.
Character: Khylan
Guild: Retired
Server: Crushbone
Posts: 415
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Re: Conjuror Bugs and concerns:
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Originally Posted by Laodaron
We don't get twice the bonus we get about the same amount as anyone else. Our personal DPS is about 60% of our overalldps. Our pet is ~40%, give or take. So because we're broken up like that, it doesn't affect us nearly twice as much.
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Get into a Group with Wizzy,Trouby and Illy, have a nice raid then look at ACT.
Those three classes are going to be 24-30% of your overall ZW DPS. That pretty darn huge in the big scheme of things.
As much as I would like to say Conjy's are the end all beat all of DPS classes, the sad truth of the matter is, we are a great DPS class that requires a support class to parse really well. If you are in a scrub group, then don't even worry about any numbers you see on these boards, you are not ever going to see them yourself.
Your best bet to be in that group is when you do get it, take advantage of it and blow up the parse, you are more likely to get it again if they see big numbers coming from you.
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Khylan - 80 Conj
Abraahms - 80 Guard
Khylanius - 80 Trouby
We few, we happy few, we band of Casters; for he today that cast his spells with me shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, this day shall gentle his condition; and gentlemen in EQ2 now-a-bed shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Raid Day.
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03-06-2008, 12:09 PM
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Character: Rorion
Guild: Unsung
Server: Lucan D'Lere
Posts: 396
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Re: Conjuror Bugs and concerns:
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Originally Posted by Khylan
Get into a Group with Wizzy,Trouby and Illy, have a nice raid then look at ACT.
Those three classes are going to be 24-30% of your overall ZW DPS. That pretty darn huge in the big scheme of things.
As much as I would like to say Conjy's are the end all beat all of DPS classes, the sad truth of the matter is, we are a great DPS class that requires a support class to parse really well. If you are in a scrub group, then don't even worry about any numbers you see on these boards, you are not ever going to see them yourself.
Your best bet to be in that group is when you do get it, take advantage of it and blow up the parse, you are more likely to get it again if they see big numbers coming from you.
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QFE, I cry like a little baby if you try to take one person out of my Wizzy, Troub, Fury, Illus, Conjy, group, it was even better when we had a warlock but we switched him out for a melee class for IA...
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03-06-2008, 02:59 PM
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Squishy does NOT mean useless...just check the Parse if you have questions.
Character: Khylan
Guild: Retired
Server: Crushbone
Posts: 415
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Re: Conjuror Bugs and concerns:
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Originally Posted by rorion
QFE, I cry like a little baby if you try to take one person out of my Wizzy, Troub, Fury, Illus, Conjy, group, it was even better when we had a warlock but we switched him out for a melee class for IA...
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Same set-up here, Wizzy, Warlock, Conjy, Fury, Trouby, Illy
Warlock may move out for pally to slap amends on for add control and drop a Melee in for IA, magma seed etc etc, but Caster group is indeed da shit. I don't cry if i'm popped into a scrub group, my numbers do reflect it though, and i'm sure the RL understands this when they make the decision to do it on occasion.. /shrug.. long as i'm in the raid and killing shit to the best that my set-up allows..i'm good.
ok.....I cry.. but on the inside and not in vent or chat 
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Khylan - 80 Conj
Abraahms - 80 Guard
Khylanius - 80 Trouby
We few, we happy few, we band of Casters; for he today that cast his spells with me shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, this day shall gentle his condition; and gentlemen in EQ2 now-a-bed shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Raid Day.
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03-10-2008, 01:35 AM
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Character: Guiddian
Guild: Retired
Server: Befallen
Posts: 92
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Re: Conjuror Bugs and concerns:
heres an issue i would like to see resolved how about having shards overwrite the old shard so you dont have to cast several single targets after casting raidwide for the people that didnt delete the old one in time
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03-10-2008, 11:14 AM
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Squishy does NOT mean useless...just check the Parse if you have questions.
Character: Khylan
Guild: Retired
Server: Crushbone
Posts: 415
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Re: Conjuror Bugs and concerns:
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Originally Posted by Guiddian
heres an issue i would like to see resolved how about having shards overwrite the old shard so you dont have to cast several single targets after casting raidwide for the people that didnt delete the old one in time
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I've had that issue in the past, worked it out with the offficers and the RL to show them my side of that problem and now, when i use my incoming raid wide shards in 1 minute macro, then 90 seconds later cast the raidwide's, if you miss it, didn't pay attention cause you only have 1 left etc etc you're shit outa luck. paying attention to your hearts/shards is just as important as having the right potions relics from faction merchant and so on. Not being on board and ready for the raidwide cast does nothing but slow down the raid and add time to pulls. It shouldn't be our job to baby-sit folks that are obviously smart (yes and sometimes not so smart) enough to be raiding in the first place.
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Khylan - 80 Conj
Abraahms - 80 Guard
Khylanius - 80 Trouby
We few, we happy few, we band of Casters; for he today that cast his spells with me shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, this day shall gentle his condition; and gentlemen in EQ2 now-a-bed shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Raid Day.
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03-10-2008, 05:36 PM
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Character: Bigron
Guild: Confirmed
Server: UNREST
Posts: 866
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Re: Conjuror Bugs and concerns:
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Originally Posted by Guiddian
heres an issue i would like to see resolved how about having shards overwrite the old shard so you dont have to cast several single targets after casting raidwide for the people that didnt delete the old one in time
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I wouldn't call this a issue that effects the class as a whole.Just a self inconvenience maybe?
Ill add it if more have gripes about this.........
I do enjoy bitching at the people that dont pay attention tho :P
What i want tho is some more feedback on the potential unabate issue/bug.will try to run some tests hope couple others may have some info also.
Last edited by bigron; 03-10-2008 at 05:38 PM.
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03-11-2008, 04:16 AM
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Cute, but vicious
Character: Sinningia
Guild: Kindred Spirits
Server: Antonia Bayle
Posts: 193
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Re: Conjuror Bugs and concerns:
Did they ever fix that bug that caused the fast summoned pet after using implode to appear as an app1 pet? I respeced awhile back and didn't bother to put AA points in implode, but if they didn't, that deserves a mention.
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80 Conjuror, 80 Tailor
80 Coercer
70 Dirge
64 Shadow Knight
60 Inquisitor
54 Ranger, 80 Carpenter
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03-11-2008, 05:54 AM
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Prepare for Trouble!
Character: Sess / Cyanide
Guild: Cataclysm
Server: Permafrost
Posts: 981
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Re: Conjuror Bugs and concerns:
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Originally Posted by Hesster
Did they ever fix that bug that caused the fast summoned pet after using implode to appear as an app1 pet? I respeced awhile back and didn't bother to put AA points in implode, but if they didn't, that deserves a mention.
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Are you referring to the AGI end ability, Reanimate?
Yeah, I reckon that bug needs to be fixed too, if it's not already fixed.
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