Guiddian

was cut tonight no parses to log any problems will look on Thursday when we raid vp next. we hit a PR loot run tomorow but hit rates are high there with or without unabate so i'm gonna do my testing in vp where the hit rate counts

Ponts

BUGS:


Pet follow-03/03/08

The pet due to lack of speed and pathing problems will often fall behind the owner sometimes a very large amount.Can be fatal on PVP servers or if engaged a mob and the pet isn't there to protect you.


Unabate not applied-03/03/08
If pet dies or if you summon another pet the AA buff unabate is not applied to new pet.Its a toggled buff so if its up on my self should automatically be applied to pet.


Vampire bats not recognized as a spell-03/04/08

+spell damage as well as spell procs do not affect this spell

ISSUES:

Ponts

the Vampire Bats is not recognized as a spell becuase it isnt. It reads ; deals peircing (melee combat arts) damage over time.. and has nothing to do with cold, heat, magic ect. Thats why +spell damage does not affect it.
As far as the pet follow, it's been working fine for me since they fixed it a couple months ago

Laodaron

Vampire should BE recognized as a spell. That's why its on the list. The fact that it isn't isn't appropriate. I'm a mage. I don't have any reason to get +CA damage or to even USE a CA.

Pets not following is a major issue, but that's all because of pathing on terrain.

Xalmat

So then, here's another question. Why is Vampire Bats flagged as an interruptible combat art? +Combat Art effects work on it. But if it's a combat art, why does INT affect its damage and not STR?

We're Mages, we don't have Combat Arts, we have Spells. If I wanted to work on both +Combat Art Dmg, and +Spell dmg, I woulda rolled a crusader or bard, not a summoner.

Just because a spell does piercing damage does not make it a combat art.

Arangor

Then why under knowledge is it listed under "Spells?"

It's a fucking spell you cast to summon bats THAT DO PIERCING DAMAGE. You don't do the damage, the bats do. What type of damage SHOULD be inconsequential because the spell of making the fucking bats appear out of thin air should be a spell. I'm aware there are abilities in game that summon things that are considered CAs, but that shouldn't be the case for a conj or any mage, really.

Khylan

Vampire bats is the same as Communion folks. It's a dumbfire pet... It gets no group or self benifits... you are summoning a pack of bats to harrass and disrupt the target lowering it's defense and doing peircing damage over time.. thats why the hit rates are so low in VP...if you look at your ACT you will notice "Pierce" guess what folks.. thats your Vampire Bats at work.. and since they are melee pets.. Melee hit rates apply, meaning without group or raid buffs applying, it's like watching a scout unbuffed try to hit an orange con mob. when you cast a dumbfire, communion or Vampire bats, there is no resist check whats so ever in casting it... it cast 100% of the time.. the damage it does to the mob is based on it's own merrits though since it is it's own entity and the mob gets resist checks on each of thier attacks the same as it would for any scout or other caster when a hostile spell is cast at it.

Bottom line... you are simply summoning something to do your bidding.. how hard they hit, how often they hit and how much damage they do are dependent on the level of the mob being attacked and the level of the spell being cast (AD3, M1).

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Pinski

Vampire Bats isn't a swarm pet, it just does piercing damage and is a spell that uses +CA Damage, go figure!

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Khylan

Hmmm ok, may not qualify as a Swarm pet persay.. but it has all the charicteristics of a swarm pet including the hit rates of a melee swarm pets and I've never had it resisted..much like a swarm pet...

In either event... I think of it the same way as i do communion, pyro and serpents...Just makes it easier for me to view it that way.

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Khylan - 80 Conj
Abraahms - 80 Guard
Khylanius - 80 Trouby

We few, we happy few, we band of Casters; for he today that cast his spells with me shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, this day shall gentle his condition; and gentlemen in EQ2 now-a-bed shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Raid Day.

Arangor

Yeh they aren't really swarm pets, the bats don't take damage or anything like that, the duration of the spell is the same regardless of an AOE or whatever. But bottom line is it's just dumb and should be considered a bug.