What are "Qualifying Pets"?

Fizbiz · 01-15-2009, 08:03 AM

According to Big rons post he says Firelyte sent him message saying the shard robe isnt suppose to proc off swarm pets.

Ok if thats true then What the hell are qualifying pets?

Seriously, no other item in the game says "Qualifying Pets" in their description and there is no guidline I know of that clearly shows what a "Qualifying Pet" is.

Is it only controlable pets (ie our main pet only)? If so why dont they just say contolable pets.

Seriously what the fuck is up with this description? If it only works on our main pet then why change the word usage from any other pet buff item?

Diknak · 01-15-2009, 01:26 PM

lol, because one thread discussing this wasn't enough.

I agree, the description is very vague and doesn't sound like anything else in the game. Prepare to be blasted by those that can't see the difference in verbiage.

IMO, if they make the change without changing the verbage, it will make it even more confusing. Maybe the intended it to proc on swarm pets when they wrote the description and then changed their mind. Maybe they had a dumb fuck intern write the description. Mabe the dev that wrote the response didn't create the item and isn't in sync with what the creator wanted. Who the hell knows what is going on with this item.

Fizbiz · 01-15-2009, 01:33 PM

I wanted to just address what a qualifying pet is.

I was reading the other post, it was degenerating it a name calling war and arguing about how to read act.

This post is only about one thing, WTF is a "Qualifying Pets"?

No one answered that with a real answer. There was lots of IMO... yadda yadda... but no one cleary stated what it was, why and had real evidence to back it up.

As a far as I know, no other item in the game has this "Qualifying Pets" added to the description...

So please no name calling just state your case, have the evidence to back it up.

Diknak · 01-15-2009, 01:38 PM

I agree. That was my main point in the other thread and the people that decided to call me degrading names for thinking that swarm pets might be considered for this one item never actually addressed this question. It was sidestepped everytime I mentioned it, so I would also love to know the answer to this. But tbh, no one here knows why this item looks different, so you aren't going to get an answer with cold hard facts, just opinions.

Iluk · 01-16-2009, 12:03 AM

Pretty well... whatever you can control with the pet window... is a pet.

If you can't control it with the pet window, it isn't a pet. IE swarms.

I hope this helps.

Laodaron · 01-16-2009, 12:46 AM

/facepalm

Khylan · 01-16-2009, 11:16 AM

The main problem with "Swarm Pets" IMHO is that they qualify as a pet for the bad stuff.. detrimental effects AE's etc , but they don't qualify as pets for the enhancement effects. At some point and time SOE will have to determine if the swarm pet is going to qualify as a DoT or as a pet and make the appropriate modifications to the spells and enhancements. Until this critical decision is reached with the programers then the whole Swarm pet issue is a mute point TBH. Just my 2 CP on the subject.

I don't play much now but I still read the boards every day in the vain hopes that conjies will once again be what we once were for the raid force. As for the name calling and stuff.. well that happens when discussions become a heated debate amongst players that enjoy playing thier class. Try not to take it to personnel, the conjy you argue with today may be the conjy that gives you the insight that helps you improve tomorrow...

Odeon · 01-16-2009, 12:05 PM

"The main problem with "Swarm Pets" IMHO is that they qualify as a pet for the bad stuff.. detrimental effects AE's etc , but they don't qualify as pets for the enhancement effects"

This is the big problem, as Khylan rightly points out. I've never considered the Fish/Pyro as actual pets, as we have no control over them or what they do, yet they're fully susceptable (spelling?) to detrimental, and general obliteration by even the most minor aoe's.

Just turn them into a 'spell' and get it over and done with. Having a another pet window for each temporary pet will just work out to be a pain in the arse. I'd much rather have them work as any other offencive spell, and be able to beef them up with crits, spell damage, base damage etc and ideally they'll be elemental type spells too

Right now the class needs that little extra boost, and something like that might make a difference.

Diknak · 01-16-2009, 02:05 PM

It's actually really odd. When looking a little closer at some of my other pet buff items, one of the items that I have that gives crit and damage bonus is hitting my swarm pets as well. I have about 5 of them, so I haven't taken the time to see which one it was.

Fizbiz · 01-16-2009, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iluk

Pretty well... whatever you can control with the pet window... is a pet.

If you can't control it with the pet window, it isn't a pet. IE swarms.

I hope this helps.

Actually it dos not. you said its not a pet its a " swarm" but they are swarm pets in thier description in the spell descriptor. so the word pets are included.

Im not saying your totally wrong, but the way the spells are written your not 100% proven correct either. Were do you get your information that a "qualifying pet" is only a controlable pet?

Is it written somewere by developer, in the game itself, whatever? This answer this question.

As you have produced no evidence its just your opinion on what a "Pet" is.

Was hoping someone has more official info on what a pet is.