The New New Parse Thread

Crevice · 01-25-2009, 02:22 PM

Thread rules:

1) Zonewide parses only. Single fights are not representative of overall DPS potential.

2) Must be ACT screenshots with full breakdown of damage/ what you cast. The purpose of this thread is not to brag but to learn from what others have done. Can't do that from just a plain list of numbers.

3) Include group makeup and overall raid DPS when you post parses. Optional to post ACT shot of this. This is helpful to place indivduals in the context of their guild capabilities.

4) Do not post parses pre robe fix. They are now irrelevant.

I'm gonna kick things off with a terrible parse to make everyone feel good about themselves. This is palace trash from last night. Raid DPS was 90k. 1 troub in raid. Group was Me, Wiz, Troub, Illy, Necro, Shaman. I did not get RoA or upbeat tempo or TC (obv). Lag was fucking terrible, also I'm missing several key items, also I suck. Please tell me how I can improve.

bigron · 01-25-2009, 03:27 PM

your cast of crystal blast is around 1 per 6.2 secs...try get more CB in and bring it to around 1 every 5 secs of combat.

The t2 robe by itself after fix is still 3-500 dps...for me...use swarm pets more because it still applies to them.

Crit is low..use pots/scrolls if dont already.

Besides that and viewing raid and availible classes/buffs to you...your prob around where/close to where wanna be.

Crevice · 01-25-2009, 03:46 PM

Getting higher crit/ better items is tough because i am not a massive raider and would lose if (for ex) WWoM dropped. Will try to cast CB more.

Any chance you could post a palace trash parse?

bigron · 01-25-2009, 05:10 PM

Nothing special...Trash and First named
2 myth troubs
2 pieces void bane gear witch wont wear next time cause get more dps with 1 voidbane and t2 robe proc.
No upbeat tempo
Not 100 pct crit
+Sd about 600
+Reuse bout 25 pct befor procs
2 brigands
Warden was healer i believe...might been mystic ,not 100 pct sure.
No down time run to mob kill run to mob kill...so on so forth.
1 wizard in group.
Debuffs seem a little off judgeing from max hits of spells.

Burnout · 01-26-2009, 08:59 AM

My sad parse.

Group setup was: (we were short a few people that night)

Conjy
Troub
Necro
Warden

We had the Illy switched over to our group about 2/3 the way through the trash.

1 guild troub
No Brig
I had Upbeat Tempo
Spell crit was at 87% (thanks to this crappy pet gear)

Raid DPS was 71K zonewide (I know)

Burnout · 01-26-2009, 09:31 AM

Bigron I have a few questions for you if you don't mind.

I noticed your WoV is doing about 100dps more than mine, do you leave WoV on? From the amount of spell hits it would appear so. And do you find this does more damage than turning it off and then recasting it every 12 to 15 seconds when you take into account procs?

How am I getting CB in so much quicker? I'm hitting a CB every 4.2 seconds to your 5.3. I have Upbeat, but is that really cutting over a second off? I'm running with about 17% to 20% reuse before UT. What am I doing right here?

My casting order goes like this:

CB (I alwasy start with CB)
Effigy
WoV
CB (unclick WoV while this is casting)
Shattered/Solid/Earthquake (depends)
CB
Effigy
Bewilderment/shocker/dagger pet
CB
Shattered/Solid/Earthquake

Start over

WoV is always back up by the time it comes up in the rotation.
If its a long fight, I'll start with Earthquake in the first slot that it comes up in, so that it is back up after Shattered and Solid have been cast. I try to avoid having to use Bats or Torrent on single mob fights.

As long as I have Upbeat Tempo or TC this order seems to work very well. CB is up for no more than 1/4 to 1/2 second before its cast. Any suggestions?

Clearly I could see some big gains from having 2 bards, having the brig show up, having a Illy in the group fulltime, and having a wizard. But I would love some other feedback on what I need to do.

Crevice · 01-26-2009, 11:04 AM

Ya, your setup was kind of sub-optimal. How much of a difference does UT make? I've never had it on me.

Hmm clearly I need to be casting CB more often. I'm always stuck with have to cast torrent at some point during the fight, which sucks dps wise.

Also I do the same as you regarding WoV, ie click it off asap. I'm pretty sure it does more dps that way, if you count procs as well.

Bhow · 01-26-2009, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burnout

Bigron I have a few questions for you if you don't mind.

I noticed your WoV is doing about 100dps more than mine, do you leave WoV on? From the amount of spell hits it would appear so. And do you find this does more damage than turning it off and then recasting it every 12 to 15 seconds when you take into account procs?

How am I getting CB in so much quicker? I'm hitting a CB every 4.2 seconds to your 5.3. I have Upbeat, but is that really cutting over a second off? I'm running with about 17% to 20% reuse before UT. What am I doing right here?

My casting order goes like this:

CB (I alwasy start with CB)
Effigy
WoV
CB (unclick WoV while this is casting)
Shattered/Solid/Earthquake (depends)
CB
Effigy
Bewilderment/shocker/dagger pet
CB
Shattered/Solid/Earthquake

Start over

WoV is always back up by the time it comes up in the rotation.
If its a long fight, I'll start with Earthquake in the first slot that it comes up in, so that it is back up after Shattered and Solid have been cast. I try to avoid having to use Bats or Torrent on single mob fights.

As long as I have Upbeat Tempo or TC this order seems to work very well. CB is up for no more than 1/4 to 1/2 second before its cast. Any suggestions?

Clearly I could see some big gains from having 2 bards, having the brig show up, having a Illy in the group fulltime, and having a wizard. But I would love some other feedback on what I need to do.

As far as your casting order, I tend to recommend hitting effigy first, then WoV, and then starting in with CB and all the other fun stuff. Reasoning is that Effigy is unresistable so it gives people a chance to debuff etc. I know its a bit weird, but it works for me.

As far as WoV, I know I very very rarely click mine off. Not sure if this is the way to go. Next time I have a chance Ill parse that out for a while. (Bigron, I'd also like to know your take on this

)

When I get home, Ill dig up my past 2 Palace ZW's. Don't think I had a troub or a wizzy for either one... let alone UT /jealous (Gotta love having one troub in raid cuz people decide not to show up.)

Arlian · 01-26-2009, 03:38 PM

I have no idea why anyone would ever click off Winds of Velious in a fight just to recast it. There is always something else to cast that is going to do twice the initial damage.

hambutt · 01-26-2009, 03:45 PM

Ive been trying to work out were im off wrong, heres a link to a recent crappy parse on palace trash.

http://www.giantatx1.karoo.net/flames/dps.jpg

Im 95% crit 550 dam mod, rarely get jesters. group was fury, troub, brig, war, illus. one thing i noticed was my void bane been only 2%, maybe the ring proc was low due to fury.