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05-25-2009, 03:04 AM
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Server: Everfrost
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Re: How Sad...
Other than my mythical and my ethernauts piece I dont have any other proc gear atm.
Got loads of Pet buffs, reuse, spell crit and spell damage....little base.
Im not sure this will hit my toon to hard. I still parse 2-5 on the ZWs in TSO Raids.
But I am wondering how its going to hit summoners in general. Some folks have us listed as being #2 on the nerf list with these proc changes.
What ya all think?
Last edited by Fizbiz; 05-25-2009 at 07:26 AM.
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05-25-2009, 06:52 AM
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Character: Vhaeraun
Server: Splitpaw
Posts: 97
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Re: How Sad...
I dont use a high amount of proc gear, personally. And those pieces that I do use, I have nice alternatives without procs sat in my bags which I can easily switch to if needs be.
I'm rarely outparsed by enchanters, and if I am it's usually a coercer, not an illusionist. I dont play the class myself, but I thought that Illusionists relied quite heavily on procs for damage? not just gear, but their own spells too..
I guess the change could be seen as bringing enchanters more in line with bards dps wise, if they really do take the hit that some are expecting it to be.
I guess next expansion we'll now see gear with a proc, followed by "This proc can crit" .. you know it
And tbh i'm more worried about those priests out there that rely on their heal/ward proc gear to do their job for them while they mash the cure buttons. I want to be kept alive, dammit!
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05-29-2009, 05:57 AM
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Character: Opti
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Re: How Sad...
We are definetely #2 on the nerf list for this proc change dps-wise anyways, healers are getting hit hard too. But for dps, its enchanters, summoners, sorcerers, and then you can throw bard/predator in there too I guess. Bye bye BBoD!
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06-03-2009, 02:14 AM
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Character: Leggato
Guild: Vi Et Armis
Server: Everfrost
Posts: 130
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Re: How Sad...
Chanters are gettin raped though lol
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06-03-2009, 03:55 PM
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Character: Ezabia
Guild: Moonlight Raiders
Server: Butcherblock
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Re: How Sad...
I remember the days when my conj could out parse chanters, that's the way it should be! My troub can't outparse any scout but another bard (unless the ranger/ass/swash/brig really sucks, which has happened) buff bots should NOT tops parses (altho if they buff my troub for better solo'ing I would be happy)
Anyhow I'm not into proc gear, thank goodness! Altho I did just start lvl'ing up a coercer thinking to switch classes since they're always out parsing me... *sigh*
I want to see conj lovin followed by troub lovin!
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06-07-2009, 06:52 PM
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Character: Sess / Cyanide
Guild: Cataclysm
Server: Permafrost
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Re: How Sad...
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Originally Posted by Tevesh
trash parses are shitty, go have a chanter outparse real dps toons on some sort of avatar or anashti or ykesha or something
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Single mob trash parses are silly. Chain pull for 10 minutes non-stop and we'll have a different story. But the real fights are the named mobs where you can go full bore.
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06-11-2009, 06:34 AM
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Character: Vhaeraun
Server: Splitpaw
Posts: 97
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Re: How Sad...
There need to be more huge encounters like the one's in Palace.
Mmmmm orange numbers :p
me and the two sorcerers always have fun with those, and the occasional plat bet if we're feeling lucky ;)
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06-12-2009, 04:24 AM
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Character: Hecatean
Guild: Shadow Guard
Server: Unrest
Posts: 129
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Re: How Sad...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezabia
I remember the days when my conj could out parse chanters, that's the way it should be! My troub can't outparse any scout but another bard (unless the ranger/ass/swash/brig really sucks, which has happened) buff bots should NOT tops parses (altho if they buff my troub for better solo'ing I would be happy)
Anyhow I'm not into proc gear, thank goodness! Altho I did just start lvl'ing up a coercer thinking to switch classes since they're always out parsing me... *sigh*
I want to see conj lovin followed by troub lovin!
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QFE. SOE classes are all jacked.
I rolled a conj thinking they (summoners) would be more powerful than a chanter and less powerful than a sorcerer in most situations.
I've been playing for a while and now realize summoners are so fucking dependent on other classes (Healer for LB, Troub for Conj > Necro (hehehe eat that necros!), illys can keep health low to do an insane amount of dps, that it's ridiculous.. that should be something a necro, sk, or berserker can do.. not a mind buffer. I've seen raids where a necro is AFK the whole fight, calls for LB and parses at the top. (obviously, some situational shit going on there with raid setup, players, healers, etc.) A lot of Raid Leaders now refer to conjs as a utility class as opposed to a DPS class. WTF?!? I thought we were about Tier 1.5 DPS. Not Tier 3 or 4?
Sure, a good conj can fill a solid DPS role or a utility class in a sense depending on how they're spec'd -- as it should be. Every class should have ultimately at least two edges to spec. I've been opposed to this from my EQ1 days, but they should just bring the beastlord into EQ2. Really fucking throw things out of whack.
I luckily had some RL stuff come up after TSO came out but from what I hear we're there for a COTH bot and a fucking vending machine. SOE should make us summon weapons for npc pets that go squish to every AE and make it where fire spells do more damage on fire elementals as opposed to ice spells. Honestly, I think summoners should be able to do some cool as shit since we should hypothetically be able to summon some powerful minions from the elements or death. Instead we get fucking hello kitty minions.
I hear EQ3 is in the works which has been a lot of rumors to if it is in fact, if it's going to a PC game or just console, and if they don't fix EQ2, I'm done with the Everquest line. I'll keep playing EQ2 until EQ3 comes out but after that, I'll find a game that has some sort of concept about RPGs, magic vs. brawn, generic class roles, and battle systems.
/rant off
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06-12-2009, 03:56 PM
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Character: Flizzle
Guild: Dissent
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 30
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Re: How Sad...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hecatean\Agresti
QFE. SOE classes are all jacked.
I rolled a conj thinking they (summoners) would be more powerful than a chanter and less powerful than a sorcerer in most situations.
I've been playing for a while and now realize summoners are so fucking dependent on other classes (Healer for LB, Troub for Conj > Necro (hehehe eat that necros!), illys can keep health low to do an insane amount of dps, that it's ridiculous.. that should be something a necro, sk, or berserker can do.. not a mind buffer. I've seen raids where a necro is AFK the whole fight, calls for LB and parses at the top. (obviously, some situational shit going on there with raid setup, players, healers, etc.) A lot of Raid Leaders now refer to conjs as a utility class as opposed to a DPS class. WTF?!? I thought we were about Tier 1.5 DPS. Not Tier 3 or 4?
Sure, a good conj can fill a solid DPS role or a utility class in a sense depending on how they're spec'd -- as it should be. Every class should have ultimately at least two edges to spec. I've been opposed to this from my EQ1 days, but they should just bring the beastlord into EQ2. Really fucking throw things out of whack.
I luckily had some RL stuff come up after TSO came out but from what I hear we're there for a COTH bot and a fucking vending machine. SOE should make us summon weapons for npc pets that go squish to every AE and make it where fire spells do more damage on fire elementals as opposed to ice spells. Honestly, I think summoners should be able to do some cool as shit since we should hypothetically be able to summon some powerful minions from the elements or death. Instead we get fucking hello kitty minions.
I hear EQ3 is in the works which has been a lot of rumors to if it is in fact, if it's going to a PC game or just console, and if they don't fix EQ2, I'm done with the Everquest line. I'll keep playing EQ2 until EQ3 comes out but after that, I'll find a game that has some sort of concept about RPGs, magic vs. brawn, generic class roles, and battle systems.
/rant off
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