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Old 05-24-2009, 03:23 AM  
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hello :D

my raid main is (non-myth) conji with mediocur (dunno if taht spelt right) gear with simple stuff liek the cloack from unrest t1 shard gear, all ad3's few masters master mage pet and vine wrapped boots + choker...

now i'm hitting (WITH) plane shift 7k in tomc... all other times when plane shift is down around 5k-6100...

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crystal blast
effigy
winds of velious (i think tahts it.. it's late and i have a mystic can't remember if it's that one lol)
vamp bats
torent
earthquake

keep in mind i spam effigy(m2) and crystal blast whenever it is up.. also have pet reactives on and such...
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was just wondering if there is anything i can do to my casting order to help me out... i realy realy wanna beat our raid wizzy on the parse.. and up until he got his myth i was close lol...

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Old 05-24-2009, 03:28 AM  
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For starters, ditch the Vine Wrapped Boots, there's far better. And get your Mythical. How the hell are you raiding ToMC without your mythical?!

Shattered Tectonics should be cast just about whenever it's up and available.

Look at the stickied "best gear" thread, and start upgrading your gear based on that list. Get fully Mastered if you aren't.

You won't beat the Wizard on the parse unless you get the group makeup you need: Troubador (with Upbeat Tempo on you), Wizard, Illusionist as a minimum.
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try and cast crystal blast every 2 spells at least, and let effigy tick it's full duration, if you have aa into it, anyway.

P.S. It's mediocre, lol.

P.S.S. Vine-Wrapped suck! But Sess already said that =(

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try and cast crystal blast every 2 spells at least, and let effigy tick it's full duration, if you have aa into it, anyway.

P.S. It's mediocre, lol.
I never let Effigy tick its full duration, you get far more DPS casting it as soon as it's available than letting it tick.
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I never let Effigy tick its full duration, you get far more DPS casting it as soon as it's available than letting it tick.
Really? I always thought it was more to let it tick, mine hits up for 800 sometimes. Oh well, learn something new every day! lol
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Old 05-24-2009, 05:07 AM  
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Drop the bats from a regular rotation and use it as a filler for when nothing at all is up.

Since your prob light on proc gear cast winds of velious at the start of any rotation so you have a chance of it lasting full duraton and get max dps out of it.When get better selection of gear cutting it off early right after you cast it is a option with being able to gain more dps from procs and all the front loaded damage of + spell damage.Until get hands on quality proc and also +reuse gear let it tick out for the duration.

Crystal blast and effigy takes priority over any spell if they are able to be casted.crystal blast will generally be up for every other cast with effigy every 3-4 casts.Only time these do not tke priority is on a ae encounter then your ae spells are top of your list.

Prioritize your AE spells.Depending the legnth of the encounter useually you would want your fastest recast ae spells to be used first especially when utalizeing JC.so torrent then earthquake then shattering would be most efficent.Unless mobs will die super fast then shattering followed by earthquake then torrent.

Swarm pets are mostly filler spell also cept for 2 cases.On a pull ,time generally communion to finsh casting as the mob reaches the raid.And pyro is good to use on ea encounters as they reach the raid.

Use plane shift even on trash encounters....just try to time it for when you need it more for named and make sure to get jesters cap when cast it.

When use elemental unity make sure if get jc and want it to effect the recast on elemental unity ...it must be on you as EU ends.The recast will not be reduced because the recast does not start on EU until the spell has run its duration or you end it early.

Prebuff blazeing on pet in between pulls or as tank is pulling.

Any proc gear you have that triggers off of hostial spells can be triggered early befor even engaged by casting ember seed over and over on someone/self or pet because seed line is considered hostial spell.

Put your DS on who ever will take the most hits...generally the OT in a encounter with adds.If the encounter has a reactive damage shield that will damage you.....put the DS on yourself.
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How the hell are you raiding ToMC without your mythical?!
lol, i got my myth on my old raid main my mystic, but we hadn't revisted VS for along time.. killed him a few days ago goign to return to VP anyday now :D

also normally i get TC form our illy and or wiz gets the UT...so we always gets the same buffs as one another reason i have hope lol
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Theres a lot of good info here as well.
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also normally i get TC form our illy and or wiz gets the UT...so we always gets the same buffs as one another reason i have hope lol
Switch. Should be better on the whole cause wizard will probably get the same out of time compression while conjurer gets way more out of tempo than time compression.
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Old 05-26-2009, 10:34 PM  
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Agree that Casting Effigy again before it wears off can push out a bit more dps. Even more so now I have my t4 robe (server disco, woo!). Nice 15% base damage to Effigy.

I never knew about Seed though, learnt something there
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