Talung

Hi There,

I have spent some time trawling through the forums and was hoping I could get a couple of things cleared up. I have been mostly playing my Warden, but have recently switched to conji for raiding. Working on his epic atm, almost done, and has got all the T1 shard armor. I have about 136 AA's and have got the Unabate line, Str, Wis and Int. Also managed to get up to the Summoner line filled in the TSO tree.

I do still consider myself a noob at this game and haven't been playing for that long.

My questions:
Magma seed - Does this work of casting as well or only melee? From the description it appears to be casting as well.

Blazing Manifestation - I am usually using my Mage Pet and ranging. Is this spell useless to me now? Or should I be next to the mob trying to melee as well? Also, how would you make the mage pet melee? Just seems that this is good for the scout or tank pet only. It also seems that the Mage pet seems to be the only way to go for raids.

Elemental Unity - This also seems to be a close range (in melee distance?) spell. Or is it a long ranged thing?

Auto-attack - If I am in melee distance (as it seems some of the spells require) will my auto-attack actuall hit or will it be constantly reset due to spam casting? If auto-attack is so important, I better get my weapon skills up... 27/400 atm.

Swarm Pets - It seems from the forum posts that these are never used... or maybe on the Pull.

Scout Pet - I have this mastered. Is it an option to use this in raids that are mostly single pulls or is that just a silly notion?

Thanks for any help you guys/gals can give. The info on the other threads about casting order and AA layouts have been extremely helpful.

Cheers
Tal

Xalmat

Magma seed is melee only.

Blazing Avatar works with the mage/mythical pets.

Elemental Unity also works with the mage/mythical pets. And the Elemental Unity trigger is an encounter AoE.

Depending on the mob, auto-attack is OK. Trash mobs are generally ok. Some named are OK. Fights where you have to do a lot of jousting, or fights where you can trigger a mob reactive, do not melee.

Scout pet is worthless on raids. Don't use it.

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Talung

Thanks Xalmat,

So I should give this to only melee classes and not bother with self-buffing myself with this?

But does this mean i still need to melee or will casting cause them to trigger as well?

Xalmat

Fire Seed should go on melee classes first, followed by other people that are likely to melee.

You do NOT melee to trigger Elemental Unity. It's triggered off your spell casts. Blazing Avatar triggers off your pet's attacks, not yours. (How do you not know this?)

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Talung

I know Blazing Avatar triggers off the pet attacks.. however this is what is confusing me.

Blazing Avatar - EQ2i, the EverQuest 2 Wiki - Quests, guides, mobs, npcs, and more

It says melee attacks. Mage pet has no melee attacks that I know of. And, because I usually try not to get aggro, I try not to let the mage pet get attacked by melee. According to the spell description those are the 2 triggers.

Also, I mostly used my scout pet while levelling and am trying to make sure that I have got things working properly on the conji and not casting or using spells that are useless. I would rather check to make sure that something is working as the spell description describes than assume the description is wrong and waste time and power casting it.

As for this Magma Seed

http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Magma_Seed

It says "attack". Now, I assumed that was ANY attack, not only melee. You have cleared that up that it is ONLY melee. It seems that the spell and buff descriptions could use a lot more clarity in there descriptions so that players new to the classes aren't confused by counter-intuitive information.

bigron

The key generally is to examine the spell itself.

If you examine seed it says combat attack.

As far as blazeing ...it says when it attacks or is attacked by melee.....so when the pet attacks in any form or when the pet is hit by melee the proc triggers.

No where does it say only melee will cause the proc to trigger and when examine the spell it says combat or spell attack will trigger it.Not sure where the confusing part is.



Anyway here is the stickie post of what each phrase means.

http://www.eq2flames.com/conjurors/1...s-defined.html

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Talung

Hi Bigron,

Thanks for clearing some of the stuff up. I am at work at the moment so don't have access to the game to 'examine' the spells. I have had questions about them and was looking at the wiki version. This of course might be out of date.

The wiki version does not say combat and that is the one I have been looking at when trying to find answers to the question.

"grants a chance to deal heat damage with every attack and place an impairment"

The link you sent explains that as being melee, spell and ranged attacks. Confusion 1.

Wiki version says the following: "dealing heat damage every time the minion attacks or is attacked in melee."

You can read this multiple ways. ie. When involved IN melee it will proc, or the way you described. Confusion 2.

Now obviously from this we have discovered that the Wiki is out of date and I should not be using that to get the text of the spells.

While I was not in the game, and in the interest of persuing becoming a better player, I was reading up on the spells and such. This lead me to the original questions i asked. To somebody playing for years or having another conji to help them out this probably would not be a problem, to others, like myself, questions arise.

Sciomar

don't believe everything posted on that site, it's not entirely accurate

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Frux

I am suprise no one bash this post yet or did the famous "search is your friend" reply bs lol.

Xalmat

We're Conjurors. We don't automatically chastise newbies.

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