Lil' Help

Ike016 · 10-28-2009, 10:22 AM

OK, not to sound like a noob but really could use some help from some of you old timers out there.

Been doing the Snake ToMC with master pet and finding it hard to keep him alive with the nox AoE he is popping. I am using Master's Intervention to get him though the first round but loose him on second.

Other than having a group cure noxious in my group is there any other ways that I can keep him up on my own or am I ass out?

Bhow · 10-28-2009, 10:59 AM

Unless I misunderstand the changes that went into effect while I was gone, as long as your pet stays behind / flanking the mob, he shouldn't be getting smacked by that AE.

Having said that, if you're only using your Master pet, it has all of about 2k hp. So I would *highly* recommend specing your AA's for Bubble as well as some of the points in your pet saves. Animist Bond would also probably help a great deal. Even with all of that it will take a lot of work on your part to keep his gimpy butt alive.

Beyond that, if you have any serious intention of raiding, you *need* to get your mythical. Its the Master 4 of your current mage pet and has a truckload of hp so it wont die so damn easy.

Alfeo · 10-28-2009, 11:58 AM

Actually, If I recall, that nox ae is the one he puts on everyone that has to be cured or you blow up. It eats the Myth pet if uncured just as fast as the master pet in this respect. Best option would be to be in a group with someone who has a nox cure ae and will always be near the named and pet (since some healers will have stations near add spawns instead). Bubble might work if you time it just before the detrimental hits, since the killing damage is from the detrimental expiring and not the initial ae hit. I've not tested it personally, I don't use bubble that much.

Animist Bond and Imp Stoneskin should work to an extent too, though I'm not sure if the pet has enough power to take the hit even with bond up. Worth a shot. Everything else fails, just use dimensional storage on the pet every time the detri hits. It'll be a bit of a pain but you'll have less downtime then letting the pet die and resummoning it anyways.

Bhow · 10-28-2009, 01:12 PM

Your pet only stoneskin (Vehement Skin) will only absorb a *physical* hit. Its useless against noxious.

As to the AE itself Iirc, AE avoids do work. So casting bubble BEFORE it hits and making sure your pet isn't atracking should prevent it from being put on your pet. Also worth noting, if the detrimental is already on your pet, Bubble will do nothing. It will die due to the effect of the detrimental.

For animist bond, Im not sure. I've never had to use it on that fight

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Xalmat · 10-28-2009, 01:24 PM

Positioning your pet behind or to the side of a mob only prevents it from being hit by AoE auto-attack. It does nothing to prevent any other kind of AoEs.

Diknak · 10-28-2009, 01:26 PM

Yeah, without the mythical, you should have bubble to help keep your pet alive. You have to back your pet off the mob when it is about to hit, but it will prevent him from dieing.

Alfeo · 10-28-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhow

Your pet only stoneskin (Vehement Skin) will only absorb a *physical* hit. Its useless against noxious.

For animist bond, Im not sure. I've never had to use it on that fight

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I wasn't talking about vehement skin though. If you get points in your imp stoneskin AA (the one under the heal) it makes it so when you use stoneskin it applies to both you and your pet, this version will protect against everything including nox.

Ike016 · 10-28-2009, 03:46 PM

The Nox is raid wide and does have to cured. I have tried all the stone skins and am aa spec'd so that all of them drop to pet also. My pet is Myth'd and still the only thing that is getting me to at least the second round of the Nox is Master's Intervention. The only thing is that the re-use time is 90 Sec and the hit time is much shorter.

Alfeo · 10-28-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike016

The Nox is raid wide and does have to cured. I have tried all the stone skins and am aa spec'd so that all of them drop to pet also. My pet is Myth'd and still the only thing that is getting me to at least the second round of the Nox is Master's Intervention. The only thing is that the re-use time is 90 Sec and the hit time is much shorter.

Yeah imo, your best bet is either coordinate something with a healer that has a group nox cure, or use dimensional storage. Those are probably the two best long term options. Cause as you point out, intervention works best but can't be used very often.

Ike016 · 10-28-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfeo

Yeah imo, your best bet is either coordinate something with a healer that has a group nox cure, or use dimensional storage. Those are probably the two best long term options. Cause as you point out, intervention works best but can't be used very often.

Well looks like may be the best and only thing I can do.

Thanks everyone for your input. I know this helped clear my mind a bit and hope maybe some one else got some useful information out of it also.