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    Ok, I really don't want to get flamed here but I need some help.

    Due to changes within my guild I moved from my previous main to dusting off my conj (which I kept up to date 95/340 - 344 now). I thought I was doing good on dps until I sat in a dual conj group and had my butt handed to me. I am not a raider but I have all potent (max greens) with almost everything else upgraded including: wand of ancient magic, fabled thaumatrurgist’s staff, wurmlords wrist, fabled wastewander cuffs, cerata’s wax seal, golden band of the broodlands, ringmail purse, and novelty card. Another words for a non-raid character I think it is in pretty good shape, and yes I acquired most of it myself I think I bought the ringmail purse though.

    As for my AA setup, it is very close to the one shown here in the stickies, actually so close it actually scared me.

    I am parsing an average of 950k on trash and 1.400k on names and here I thought that was good, I was proud of that. Got into a group with another conj and was out parsed by an average of 900k, relatively doubling my parse and at times almost tripling my parse (granted a raid geared char, but triple my parse?).

    My question is basically a phrase - What the hell am I doing wrong?

    For named fights, which is basically what I am concerned with (especially for Dom), on the pull I cast Stoneskins, Plane Shift, Elemental Unity, and Elemental Tox as the tank takes agro I attack with the pet and hit Elemental Blast and Soulburn. I then follow that up with the full set of pets (Communion, Roaring Flames, and Aqueous Swarm) and then depending on group or solo I start working either group or solo attacks (not including Petrify unless stuns are needed).

    I do throw in spell bind, ringmail purse, and novelty card in when they are up too.

    I continue to hit Elemental Blast, Planar Burst, and Soulburn (as long as pet has full health) as often as they come up as a priority.

    Ok, so the questions are:
    • Am I missing anything on the pull?
    • How relevant are the extra pets at this point (Communion, Roaring Flames, and Aqueous Swarm), I ask because in the past I heard they take too long to cast and don’t provide enough dps in return.
    • Should I hit with my spells (solo and group spells) prior to releasing the pets so I can activate Planar Burst?
    Again please keep in mind, I haven't seriously played this character in a while (in a few expansions so things have, um changed a bit) so I am looking for any constructive feedback.

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    Default Re: Casting help

    Set the pet to assist you if you didnt.

    During pull i usually start with Vampire Bats and click CB and Fiery Annihilation and other stuff to get a Planar Burst active and off. That's it about conju debuffs.

    About 5s after pull your illu will cast Time Warp and show that by a /gs message.

    Illu & Time Warp
    Try this ACT trigger
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    <Trigger R="<Trigger R="says to the group.*(?i)time.*warp(?-i)" SD="time warp soon" ST="3" CR="F" C=" General" T="F" TN="" Ta="F" />" SD="prepTime" ST="3" CR="F" C=" General" T="F" TN="" Ta="F" />
    to get an acoustical for your Illu's TimeWarp group message.
    Time Warp will be active about 5s after that.
    Try to pre-cast your communion pets so, so that they land 0.1 ms after "Time Warp is active" and follow with the other swarm pets immediately. Your swarm pets are your best source of DPS. And they doublecast.

    Troub & VC
    When your troub's Victorious Concerto is active, use anything that hits quick and/or many mobs so you get as many VC triggers as possible while VC is active. (Theurgist Detonation is the best spell).

    DPS
    When comparing your DPS so someone else, use ACT and see what did the difference. If you dont understand what you see, take screenshots of what you dont understand.

    For personal DPS and cast order, work on an epic dummy, change cast order, compare parses.
    If you want to compare: my best parse solo on an epic dummy (no deity) was
    (00:53) training dummy: 3372510 | Squosh-Soulburn-4723445
    Squosh | 3372510

    A text list of equipment or 'my aa are somewhat similar as in the guide' will not get you help on equipment, stats or aa.
    Providing a link to your eq2u profile may.

    GL
    Last edited by gosh; 05-01-2014 at 03:03 PM.
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    Squosh,

    Thanks for the feedback, I will add the trigger to act that should help with time warp a lot. My AA's were so close to what was done here I altered them to match it to see if it would help out more but I haven't had a chance to test it. As for my profile: Geras [95 Conjuror] - Permafrost - EQ2U - Character Details you are free to check it out and provide any feedback. Next time in the guild hall I will hit the dummy to see what I can do better.

    So you are trying to get Planar burst up and running asap, I went the other way and hit with the pet stuff first off, I will try that.

    So the swarm pets are the best source of dps... Interesting, I was told a few expansions ago that your main pet and the char did the dps, the other pets were ok but did little to nothing, not worth casting them. So it sounds like it would be best to keep them up at all times.

    I will hit the dummy later today, you have given me some things to think about. Thanks.

    By the way, nice gear...

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    Default Re: Casting help

    Quote Originally Posted by gosh View Post
    For personal DPS and cast order, work on an epic dummy, change cast order, compare parses.
    If you want to compare: my best parse solo on an epic dummy (no deity) was
    (00:53) training dummy: 3372510 | Squosh-Soulburn-4723445
    Squosh | 3372510
    That's a pretty good dummy parse, I'd be curious to see the parse on that and what is hitting so hard.

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    Thanks.
    Here you are:
    2014-14-04.dummy.3.4M.merged.png
    Have been lucky on some 'multi' hits, but not on Elemental Blast reset.
    This parse somewhat happend occasionally. I had reforged from Haste/DPS/MA/AE into overcap AbMod again in order to benefit most from pot clickies. [today i again went back from that high AbMod quite a bit. i am reforging a lot recently, but i dont get sufficiently comparable raid group setups on similar raid targets, so i can not proof anything reasonable yet].
    I broke my so far record vs the dummy while i've been playing around with my UI (after many years i had moved my hotbars from the bottom of the screen to the top, because i hardy had been able to react fast enough to what happened during a fight).
    Last edited by gosh; 05-03-2014 at 02:24 AM.
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    Where are you getting all that damage from? Some of your stuff is hitting pretty damn hard for just being solo buffed.

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    If it was not 'over the cap' AbMod (40k for sure, maybe 48k, not certain about in which state of reforging i parsed this) doubling the effect of the potency clickies from Vyemm's pot Charm, Scale of Sontalak and Spellbind (not certain on Totem of the Draconic Oracle), then it was probably just luck and the dummy had a bad day. /shrug
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    Geras, sorry for derailing.

    Back to your OP: i looked at your profile and can do some comments.

    I guess you did, but for completenes: make sure your reuse is 100% in a group situation.

    i would invest in recovery as well. 100% recovery means 0.25s delay between spells instead of 0.5s which can sum up to quite some more spells which you can cast per minute or during TW or VC is active.

    Your white adornments for 55 AbMod are outdated by ToV equipment with thousands of Abmod (110 Abmod is about 0.004% of your Abmod).

    Just 230 DPS will probably not bring sufficient returns for all the invest in MA/Haste/AE/accuracy. What % of your dps is "crush" doing with that setup? Maybe wait with reforging into AE/haste-above-114 until you have more stats in sum.
    If you want to hit more often with your autoattack in a group or raid situation you dont need any strikethrough but some accuracy.

    i went for pot+cb and a little less doublecast on girdle and back. In my parses double cast is not as good as it looks on paper. Depends on spells, but for ex. Crystal Blast "multi" hits are hitting for just around 33% of the intitial hit.

    1900 Disruption looks a bit of a waste to me as well. i wasn't able to confirm any measurable increase of spell minimum hits in my parses when i played around with that (3 months ago, so this may have changed meanwhile).
    Last edited by gosh; 05-04-2014 at 02:39 AM.
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    Default Re: Casting help

    Well, for class focus i use 10% max HP from Focus: magi's shielding (and a purple anti stun rune) instead of a 5% chance to resist stuns.
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    Cant belive i forgot to write it down: purple adorns should all be pot+cb except on shoulders DC.
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