Emanji

I was shitty enough to play MT defiler for Chaotic Legion, Dissolution, and Ne Plus Ultra. But yeah, it was too boring for me, I fell asleep during raids sometime. I also play a fury during raids and it's alot more exciting.

Korvac

You misinterpreted what I was saying. I am fully aware how strong our class is. I'm saying everything we do is under the radar. We don't visibly make health go up as well as other healers, we don't have uber dps buffs, and we can't parse 2k+(that I know of).Being on top of the heal parse isn't headline material, we can do that in our sleep, but so could a mystic(and they're gimp)

Of course the raiding community knows what we can do.He's asking why defiler isn't played much, and that's why.When people start playing they don't see the strength of the class as easily as they can other classes, so people tend to lose faith long before they enter the raiding stage of the game.

Deludar

And you went through all 3 of them because?

All im saying is that there is never time during a raid where you even have time to think about falling asleep if you are truly playing the class to the best of you ability. Even when i'm doing everything I can, there is more I can be doing.

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oddyophile

I disagree. At a certain point these fights become second nature, and even your most impressive actions become robotic and dull. There is always something you can be doing, but not things you should be doing. Once you know the difference, what's left can become tedious.

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Deludar

If you are going to use that as your arguement, then the same can be said about any class

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Mushii

let me start by saying I love being a Defiler. Boring...never! Unsung, very often... I dont tend to see many heal parses, mostly they tend to be epeens for dps classes, but meh.

Raiding and grouping is seldom boring. If the groups are slow, get the tank to pull more. If you have the capacity, either heal more, or start dpsing as well. The only time I am ever slow in groups is with another healer, unless it is Unrest, then I am sharp on my toes.

I do think that we are generally a very misunderstood class. My G/L said to me the other night, 'I know Defilers ward, and do it well, but what else do you do?' I had to laugh. My response was 'this and that and I do that well too.'

He isnt the only one who has asked me similar. For the first time about a week ago a tank said, wow your dog wards a lot, I thought that he was just a dumbfire-pet. - which brought a wry smile (although it p*sses me off when he has to be sacrificed to pull mobs).

I think as a previous poster said, Defilers contributions to raids / groups always seems insignificant (to the uneducated) as outwardly (unless the heals are parsed) we do very little, ie the tanks health bar is barely moving, our slows / debuffs dont cause the mob to become geriatric or its arms to fall off, our 'dumb dog's' wards /haste goes unnoticed in the scheme of things and all the time we are warding, debuffing, dotting, sending in the dog, healing, curing the tank and anyone else all without spectacular fireworks or fantastic spell effects.

On the flip side, see how many raid-leaders want to take their groups into EOF raid zones without a Defiler in the MT group - not that many.

So yes you will always be wanted but you will seldom be praised and a good Defiler is like a swan - outwardly serene but underneath working like fury (bad pun) to keep the show on the road.

Oh and if you want to make friends with the paper tanks give them a little lovin' with Alacrity - they sure as hell will remember why they wanted a Defiler in their raid / group

Jitter - 70 Defiler
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Emanji

Not when they other class are doing more exciting stuff. By the time you cast your one group ward, a fury can cast 3-4 spells, and necro can cast 3-4 spells, a bruiser and run through a line of abilities. Defiler is just a slower and less exciting class to play.

Noirsoldats

I'm sorry that you're a product of the impatient instant gratification age. /pity

Emanji

lol i play a raiding defiler for 20 months from T5 all the way to the end of KoS. If I was impatient I woulda ditch the toon WAY before LU13. What's up with all you people making personal remarks when you don't even know me lol. I'm simply stating my opinions, don't hate ;)

Deludar

That's just a matter of opinion. Since when does slower = less exciting? I think a defiler FAR more exciting that any DPS, especially mages. All you do is stand there and click buttons. As a healer you need to time heals based on how debuffed the mob is, whether AEs are incoming, what abilities it has, etc, etc. All the while keeping debuffs active AND maintaining power. Then, DPS as much as you can in between.

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