Hammers ???

Mystt · 10-26-2007, 12:06 PM

Ok guys, I touched on this in the defiler world channel last night and Raz and a few others were saying Pureblood > Soulfire. I am a MT defiler so the proc rates are 4.1 on the Pureblood and 2.5 on the Soulfire.

They are both good weapons etc etc...We did Tranq last night...and the Pureblood was about 6% of my total heal parse, the group heal earring was 2%.

Wanting to get some opinions, and reasoning on the hammers...I guess my hang up on it is...the Soulfire while has less chance to proc...increases my wards base by 75 points... I would like to get my mind around why the pureblood is better. Remember that the wording on the pureblood is a bit messed up...

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razieh · 10-26-2007, 10:32 PM

First of all this is based on a PURE healing item not a hybrid weapon
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Pureblood_ Soulfire Hammer

3.0 times per min on any spell 1.8 times per min on healing spell
250 AE heal 182 AE heal

+0 to heals +75 to heals

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Now if you add +proc chance buffs assuming you are in the main tank group!!

<pre>
Pureblood_ Soulfire Hammer

4.2 times per min on any spell 2.4 times per min on healing spell
250 AE heal 182 AE heal

+0 to heals +75 to heals

</pre>

1.8 times per min difference and 68 health difference. That 68 point difference plus the proc chance on ANY SPELL not HEALING SPELLS. That will make a huge difference and make the plus to heals a minute difference, overall less than the pureblood.

Judist · 10-27-2007, 06:57 AM

OP:

On an easy encounter (when the MT is at 100% the majority of a fight) your gonna get more from Soulfire's +heals beefing yer wards. Even on tougher mobs its still a fantastic weapon, as it offers a solid increase. When the MT is in the red, do you wanna HOPE your weapon procs? Or do you wanna KNOW your atleast getting +heals on every heal/ward cast when it matters most.

It just depends on how you look at it. If you looking for a bigger ZW heal parse, go Pureblood.

ScareCrow144 · 10-27-2007, 07:46 AM

Personally, +heal items don't do much for me. The recast on a single target ward is pretty damn fast and +anything is not going to give you that much. Anyone who has the pureblood knows it procs constantly. It will proc off of anything but a single target cure at about 40-60%.

You really dont have to do any numbers on it...higher proc chance...higher heals...procs on any spell.

Just read the description...you don't have to dick with ACT for 10 hours to figure out which weapon will give you the highest return.

Not sure about other servers but the Pureblood is guaranteed when we do TTR, if you have a guild that can manage TTR don't waste your time with SoD.

I'll take a 250-350pt group heal over a +75 heal increase any day. If you are doing your job there will be a single taget ward up on the MT or OT anyways...how does +75 to a ward help? You are gonna be debuffing and chain warding anyway, why not get the extra group heals from it.

Don't think im talking shit because i went through the same analysis when the hammer first dropped for us.

Pureblood > soulfire..easily

P.S. Gimme my robe Razieh!!

Saracen · 10-29-2007, 10:53 AM

uhh why not actually use some skills and switch weapons all the time?

You hardly need group heals ALL the time... If I were playing my defiler I'd personally use soulfire mainly and switch the group heal proc shit in with a macro just a fraction of a sec before an ae timer is up... Micro management for the win.

Thanks for this advice can be given in sexual favours

Uddjubb · 10-29-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Saracen

uhh why not actually use some skills and switch weapons all the time?

Oh boy, you're going to have a rough go fairly soon.

Promise · 10-31-2007, 01:20 AM

/cheer just got my Hammer of the Pureblood tonight..now I just need to decide if I want to put the +40 healing or +1 heal crit on it lol.

Furocious · 10-31-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Uddjubb

Oh boy, you're going to have a rough go fairly soon.

Pretty sure you're still going to be able to change weapons while in combat in RoK just not armor.

Uddjubb · 10-31-2007, 03:29 PM

I'll have to long on an try it. Haven't been on beta in two days. I'll advise when the NDA is lifted.

ScareCrow144 · 11-02-2007, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Saracen

uhh why not actually use some skills and switch weapons all the time?

You hardly need group heals ALL the time... If I were playing my defiler I'd personally use soulfire mainly and switch the group heal proc shit in with a macro just a fraction of a sec before an ae timer is up... Micro management for the win.

Thanks for this advice can be given in sexual favours

Name for me a mob from EoF that would actually warrant switching ANY item mid fight as a defiler. The post was which item was better...and the Pureblood is the better item.