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Old 12-17-2007, 11:57 AM  
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Default Little lvling help please

I just would like to know what is the best placement for AA points when first starting a defiler. I have read alot of stuff about raiding defilers, but couldnt find much for the newbie looking for guidance. Any advice and explanations would be much appreciated.

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Old 12-17-2007, 12:06 PM  
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Default Re: Little lvling help please

Since you're soloing, go down the INT line and get Spell Crits, then go down AGI and get melee crits, then from there, do whatever.
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:11 PM  
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Default Re: Little lvling help please

What about in a small group of 3 (myself included). I am lvling with 2 friends and we are pretty much only playing together until we get to some dungeons that will require more. Also are the stats on my pet directly taken from my stats, because when I first started using it everything pretty much 1 shotted the pet and I found it kind of useless.
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:38 PM  
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Default Re: Little lvling help please

the dog is used for buffs, some dps, and in some AA lines healing and debuffs...

Unfortunately the dog is completely useless for tanking.

Just make sure when you send your dog in, he is behind the mob so he doesn't get riposted to death.

If you are solo a good way to do this is, pull the mob with a dot/spell/debuff... send in your pet, and then hop past the mob so the mob turns around.

Dog on mobs ass = good.
Dog in mobs face = bad.

Pinksi had great suggestions for the AA lines for 3 group xpin lower level stuff.

The spell crit will make your spell damage do more. and the agility line will make you do more physical melee damage.

I've seen a lot of lower level healers not want to get in and melee, but with a 3 person group you will definitely want to melee... just make sure whomever is tanking has the mob facing away from you.

You on the mobs ass = good.
you in the mobs face = bad. (unless solo)
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:46 PM  
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Default Re: Little lvling help please

Ok that clears up alot of confusion thanks. Also what is a good point to start looking at the Defiler tree?



Went back and read Pinksi again and cleared up my own question

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Old 12-17-2007, 07:37 PM  
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Ok that clears up alot of confusion thanks. Also what is a good point to start looking at the Defiler tree?



Went back and read Pinksi again and cleared up my own question

for exp grinding? Hmm, soon as you get 70 AA's in your shammie tree you should start looking at the defiler tree
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Old 12-18-2007, 08:20 AM  
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Default Re: Little lvling help please

for soloing and small groups i would go with the following:

start with WIS line, WIS2 is the quickest way to get benefit out of AAs. Once you have 25 AAs, switch to the STR line and spec it 4/4/6/8/2. STR line is our best healing line (due to doggy ward) and you might as well start learning how to control the dog early on. It also helps with soloing a great deal because now you can nuke more and heal yourself less (dog is warding you), plus the passive dps from the dog helps (even though it's really little).

Once you have 24 in STR, I would start putting points in wisdom again for the reasons outlined above. Once I had enough points to max it, I would switch them out of wisdom and into th Cannibalize line on the defiler tree. It's been years since i was a low lvl defiler, but I remember there being quite a few power problems until you get into t7 or so. With canni you will never have this problem, additionaly it gives you a lot of additional dps which will be great for soloing and small groups.

So now you have max STR, max Canni ( i forget line name). I'd go back to putting points in wisdom (just because wisdom yields benefit with only 5 AAs while other lines need 12+ to get anything useful). Also you'll notice that WIS2 (Ritual) works with Canni for better regen. win!

After that you should know enough about defiling to know how you want to spec overall. I wouldn't touch the defiler tree again until i had my shammy tree maxed. Prevention and Curseweaving are both useful, but are IMO a lot more raid-relevant, so you can wait to get those until later.

On the shammy line you want to end up with STR maxed and then a combination of 2 or more of the other lines. There are plenty of discussions as to the merits of each on this forum.

Anyhow, that is how I would level my AAs if i was doing the defiler thing over again.

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