Xarazul

First of im going to say that this is my thoughts on a pvp build for the shaman tree.

Right now i am lvl 42 with 65 aa's. And this is my shaman spec:

int: 4-6-8-4-1
agi: 4-4-6-8-1

To me this specc seemed like the only good build for pvp, even tho i was not really happy with it for a defiler.

I am not going to do anything about the int line, fits the pvp defiler very well.

The line that really doesnt strike me as a very good defiler line is the agi line.

Why? because i dont really see a defiler benefit that much from the melee part, as for example a mystic.

My 3 main stats are obviouse: Sta,Wis and Int.
Since that leaves me with not that much Str i find that putting points in anything that have something to do with melee.. that just seems like a waste.

The only benefit i can see in Tribal Rage for a defiler would be that it would be easier to have Dread Invective proc, because of the extra attack speed.

The only two things about the agi line that i really feel that i have use for is the root and the heal crit, just a shame that they had to put the heal crit all the way down the agi line.

Now, this is what i want to try (if it wasnt for that damn heal crit being in the agi line.. it could have been alot easier)

So basicly i wanna keep the in line, so here goes:

int: 4-7-8-4-1
agi: 4-4-4-8
wis: 4-8-4-8

or

int: 6-8-8-0-1
agi: 4-4-4-8
wis: 4-8-6-8

or for when im duing with my warlock friend:

int: 6-8-8-0-1
agi: 4-4-4-8
wis: 4-8-5-7-1

This should use up 70 points, feel free to correct me.

The idea wof the last build is to have Ritual of Alacrity to put on the warlock while he pops focus casting etc, that should make him very deadly.

Other then that, ritual is obviously not bad, then we have the faster reuse, and the extra spell casting skills to help with landing things.

The wis line is obviously not the perfect line for pvp, but i tend to find it better then tribal rage and melee crit.. I just cant find any other line then int line that really screams pvp defiler.

Thoes are my thoughts, please comment.

Saracen

Str line should be nifty to keep ur pet alive and proccing useful stuff unless directly targetted? I can imagine extra aoe immunity being very useful in group and raid pvp too

also does the stamina cure speed increase effect pvp? might be an interesting line to take for more avoid against nasty scouts and faster curing if it effects pvp ruleset and also the daze to stop the killer auto attacks of a melee class.

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Xarazul

The problem with the str line is that the pet takes a very long time to cast, and if the pet afterall gets killed quickly, then that's pretty much wasting a whole aa line, if you get my point.. Its a bit to risky.

I have to look into if the cure speed effect pvp ruleset. I would love to have the daze, and i was actually going to get that with my current spec.. But now im trying to find a good use for the wis line, and having to go that far down the agi line for that heal crit just makes this a pain in the arse, there's just not enough points.

Saracen

thats probably the weakness of the str line but in larger scale pvp with a tank taunting and other targets to kill ppl will probably often ignore your little buddy!

heal crits are probably not too great overall in pvp and probably even more so worthless in smaller scale pvp when compared to acquiring a daze or root or more avoid that will for sure prevent/reduce incoming damage from melee classes atleast!

The interupt from strength line cant be ignored too against the rare sight that is solo caster and is probably fun to stick on an enemy healer to piss him off!

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Xarazul

I respeced and im trying out the wis line together with my int atm.. Mainly like the spec i presented in my thread, but since im not 70 yet i dont have 70 points to spend in shaman tree..

Exactly how usefull is it to get a boost to your spell casting skills?
(disruption,ordination,subjugation)

also it feels that ritual wich gives me 32% more health replenish for the next heal is more usefull in a one v one pvp fight or smaller scale pvp then the extra 15,6% heal crit chance. Less randomness is always good.

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