Cheddar

I'm curious after reading a post on this forum where someone said they had over 600+ to heals and this got me thinking how does this compare to overloaded healing items?

At the moment on my shaman I have around 8 OH items but my +heal is only around 230.

Thoughts?

Ambi

Damn son, you saying you're wearing 8 pieces with OH currently?
That's sexy.

However, I'd take as much +Heals as I can get with a couple Overloaded's added in.
The way I see it, you're increasing base ward size, and therefore preventing more damage. With additional OH's, you maybe keeping your target topped off better, but when they are sitting at 100%, you're not stacking heals for any incoming spike damage.
I haven't tested whether +Heals is used in calculating crit wards, but I know for sure it grows with Coercive and Gravitas.
Anyone know? Razieh?

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Laeluna

Personally I'd go with +heals since they apply to *every* heal and ward whereas OLH is a chance to proc. In addition to that, +heal boosts your ward size, keeping group and tank at 100% longer, whereas your OLH will only benefit if they were at *less* than 100% in the first place.

I have just one OLH item I think (the quested earring, I'd swing with the cloak too, but I have the crit one from FTH), and I run at +675 heals I think. That's a T2 raiding shammie.

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razieh

Unless it was changed within the last live update +heals work this way.

+heals are added last after the crit.
+heals cap is 50% of the base amount.
Percent based increases(such as coersive healing) DO NOT increase the +heal cap.
Crit heals DO increase the +heal cap.

Personally I don't use more than two overloaded healing items. I tend to favor heal crits since fury mythical gives you a ton of +heal.

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Cheddar

Thanks for the replies folks.

I may try dropping a few OH items and going with some more +heal items but I am still not sure. Being a mystic I am the ancestry skill which makes all my items proc a lot more.

What I tend to find is that I am using my group heal if I need to actuallly heal the tank. Casting this normally causes most of my items to proc which increases the actual amount of heals on the tank by a huge amount. It's kinda funny seeing a group go from red to full green with one heal.

I like the idea of my wards obviously being bigger, I still use the Claymore reward because of this and now and again I am in the MT group with a coercer which also helps. I just am not sure if the extra +heal will help as our tanks still seem to get a hit for huge numbers.

Zionn

I don't use a single Overloaded heal item, but do have the cloak from TTR, which is constantly ticking, and sitting at +790 to heals during raids, without fury buff, with around 60 percent Heal crit. Get the + to heals, blended with heal crit, gonna make your tank much more stable than overloaded heals.

razieh

Currently using 2 overloaded healing items(no ring of forgiveness ) I have 515 +heals and sit at 99% heal crits in raids, I also use one warding item. I also sit at roughly 60% reuse on raids :/ Saying don't use any overloaded healing items is bad advice.

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icmccowboy

My God it's a Zionn !!! Giving bad advice as always, LOL ! There are a few mobs in the game that overloaded heals work well on. I guess it all depends on your role. If you are strictly MT Healer than heal crit and plus heal are a good way to go. If you occasionally find yourself in a different group than it may be wise to have some OH items to throw on. I have different gear for different situations. 2 mobs come to mind when OH is critical. Druushk and Nexona, OH is a zone wide heal so if your group mate is out of range of your group heals than you can pick him up with the OH items. I always check my ACT and OH Procs a ton. Seems to me that our role as healers has changed alot in this tier and we need to change with it. Try and be versatile and able to adapt to new situations as you are challenged with new mobs. Good Luck

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Zionn

Sorry about that,didn't mean to not use OH items as I kinda thought his focus was about keeping the tank stable, so went that route, OH items aren't bad, but there are other items that can be alot better too. Cloak from TTR never stops proc'ing its constant group heal, Star of Malice off Master P that procs the angels is insane for group heals, heals/wards/deaggs whole raid as well.

Another side note, did used to use OH items, but found, and maybe they changed this, but when another person in the group used one or two of the items, and their's was procing, would give me the message "Would not take effect." Maybe they've changed that since, but that was an issue we were having, kinda defeated the purpose if it couldn't proc while someone else's was procing.

Really depends if you're solo healing a group on raid/instance, or mt healing, different ball game either way, so have gear to switch in and out.

Valknut

I roll w/ 4 OLH and 1505+ heals and about 80 crit allot of the time I will pop on more OLH for bad ae fights and more + heals for fights that dont ae... I 'd say for raiding OLH is nice for some fights but if you had to choose one or other go w/ + heals