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Old 07-05-2008, 03:31 AM  
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I never said Mystics suck in comparison to Defilers, so I don't know where you got that from.
This quote here says everything.
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Mystics need something to set them apart since they've been considered second fiddle to Defilers.
Unless you had a brain fart saying mystics are second fiddle means they don't compare aka defilers are better than mystics, aka mystics suck.
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All I am saying is that the majority of raid guilds have MT Defilers, not Mystics. And if I were a Mystic that might irk me sometimes. I don't know, I've never been a Mystic. I am sure that Inquisitors might feel the same way in regards to Templars.
People use Defilers in the main tank group because of tendrils thats about it other than that a mystic could take our spot. Also in no way should a mystic feel like a inquisitors. Inquisitors actually suck in comparison while the differences between a mystic and defiler are very few, most in the mystics favor.
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You're trying very, very hard to make it sound like I said something I obviously didn't.

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Unless you had a brain fart saying mystics are second fiddle means they don't compare aka defilers are better than mystics, aka mystics suck.
I never said Mystics suck, meaning that their class is completely useless aka Defilers are greater than Mystics in every aspect aka Defilers are the best class ever invented.

So, unless you had a brain fart, and you don't know what the term "second fiddle" means, you should probably stop trying to put words in my mouth.


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Oh no, a Mystic isn't as good as a Defiler in the MT group, but decimates the Defiler in any other group!
Yep, and that's why I think their mythical really increases their value in a raid.

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how about mystics being able to do 5k dps lol i guess that makes them worthless to
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So, unless you had a brain fart, and you don't know what the term "second fiddle" means, you should probably stop trying to put words in my mouth.
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play second fiddle
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to have secondary or lower status
Secondary status means not as good as the first, no? Therefor if you use common sense you would say mystics aren't as good as defilers. You also stated that inquisitors must feel like mystics in respects to templar:defiler. Inquisitors are by far the worst healer and are god awful in comparison to templars. Are you really trying to argue this?

Not to mention I think defilers are currently second fiddle to mystics anyways!
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I'm not trying to argue anything. You're the one who is attacking me and putting words into my mouth that I clearly didn't say.

Anyway, according to you Mystics should be the new MT healers over Defilers now. When is your guild going to be making the switch?
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genji your a complete retard go reroll gg k ty your comparing 2 different classes

a. defiler is better for mt
b. mystics are better for ot

u put each in each others places and they will both not be able to perform as well as the other cause there not ment for that spot in the raid enough said
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A Mystic is fully capable of MT healing any raid instanced content - if he is named Kaizer.


A Defiler in the OT group is just a good way to lose raidwide dps without gaining much "if any" more survivability.




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I'm not trying to argue anything. You're the one who is attacking me and putting words into my mouth that I clearly didn't say.

Anyway, according to you Mystics should be the new MT healers over Defilers now. When is your guild going to be making the switch?
Mystics more and more are being pushed into the MT role if you can't see that please just change classes now. Our mythical is a clear sign that SOE thinks we are more offensive, not to mention defile? Pandemonium? All of our DEFINING spells, oh sure you will say what about death ward? You mean a ward that does more based on how much damage is done?

All signs point offensive!

Either way my guild isn't going to switch me at the moment but if I want to DPS they do let us switch since it makes such little difference.
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When you understand the problem with the defiler epic, feel free to post until then you have no need to chime in.

Nightmares gets resisted maybe 20% of the time much less than the mystic one, not to mention resist isn't even the problem with it. As the first line of defense on your main tank, using a dot on mobs and getting stifled/stunned due to damage shields really works out well for us.
while your complaints of being stunned on reactive damage and shit is all fine and dandy that had nothing to do with my post. I was referring to the defilers in this SAME thread complaining about it resisting 2-3 times in a row. You might want to unplug that tampon you have quite a few pearls up in your gin.
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