Pouncer

So for T8 raids (and even many instances) the STR line is often useless because, despite what the description for the final ability says, dogdog often dies to AEs. However has anyone tried it against Leviathan?

I'm thinking if I gave my pet my Precognition that he may survive the AE, that his ward would help me out with my heals, and his haste and leg bite would help out at least somewhat on dps since everyone has to melee. I was going to try it next time we go up against him but I was wondering if anyone's had any first hand success or failure using this spec on him.


Pouncer

Odii

Giving your dog precog is a retarded idea.

Using your dog on Levi is also a retarded idea. He won't stay alive and he'll be outta range to give you / your group the wards.

Personally i use my dog on just about every fight... he doesn't die to AoE's very often, unless its like RE2 or very specific fights. Most people who say the dog dies all the time to AoE's are really just sending the dog in the mobs face and its getting riposted to death.

Please don't ever waste a con slot on your dog... unless your guild wants to suit him up to MT something =p in which case you'll need everything you can get.

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Alaocia

On leviathian I respec INT since scourge works much better than the druids despell on Levi's reflect imho. You may get resisted 1 or 2 times tops, but I have seen druids resisted up to 6 times trying to despell. If you have a ton of druids on raids... go with STA, but if you roll with 2 druids go INT for that fight.

The dog will die on levi and with that fight he is utterly useless besides his haste if you let him sit there and watch everyone work.

Never give your dog your precog... unless you are soloing.

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Pouncer

Yep that's the only time I give him Precog. Back in T7 when he was actually immune to AEs I'd give it to him even in groups in case his wards agroed, it would usually buy me enough time to keep him alive.

I saw what a waste it was in T8 but I always kept the idea on the backburner. I had assumed that Scourge was broken because I had never seen it work, but maybe I'll give that another whirl next time we go after Leviathan.

As for precog on myself, once again in T7 I didn't need it as much. Never had power issues and the HP gain was rarely enough to make a difference in those rare times that I got agro and my deagro was down (or we were in an area where fear would have brought more mobs). So it was worth the risk.

Anyway, like I said I'll try the INT line. I guess it's time to get another respec mirror. :P


Crippler

Odii

Putting precog on your dog, in group or raid, is a complete waste of a con slot.

You just said the only time you do it is solo... but then you said you did it in groups and raids and previously said you were thinking about doing it in raids.

DO NOT PUT PRECOG ON YOUR DOG UNLESS YOU ARE SOLOING.

Dog immunity works fine. Some mobs do an AoE auto attack now (like RE2 for example) which kills the dog. But i do not have issues with my dog not being immune to things that you can be immune to.

You don't need another respec mirror. If you are that interested in trying different specs just save a spec where you only have 1 point spent in the shaman tree (on dog) and save that... then your remaining points will stay open so you can spend them where you choose to.

To Summarize : Nothing is wrong with the dog immunity and DO NOT PUT PRECOG ON THE GODDAMNMOTHERFUCKINGDOG.

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Pouncer

Yeah I heard you the first time.

seethe

the dog never survived the leviathon fight for me. i dropped str line after first leviathon fight months ago and never picked it up again. personally i have never missed using that dog, do not think he helped that much anyway. dropped str line for agility crit heals and will never go back.

my 2 cents peace u all

Alaocia

You did not have heal crit in AGI to begin with? Easy to have two full lines and AGI for the crits. What did you have before?

I usually always use precog on myself simply because of soul wards... more HP's = bigger soul ward

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Quse

While I don't doubt a good portion of the people that complain about this aren't capable of positioning the dog properly, zillions of AoEs in game are pseudo-targetted AoEs which will kill the dog regardless of its immunity. If you are raiding anything above PR your dog is pretty much completely useless; nearly all mobs that are remotely difficult have damage shields or proc hostile effects on attack which insta-gib (or almost) the dog... on top of unavoidable AEs.

Dogs are worthless for the same reason our mythical click is worthless, you can't deal damage to most mobs without owning yourself in the face.

STA > STR

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seethe

before i changed str to agility i used str to bottom, sta to bottom and wis 4448

now i use sta and wis to bottom and agi with max heal crits, not at home so cant say exactly what numbers i use in each column but thats the basic

agree with quse on the positioning of the dog. prior to leviathon it was all about positioning the dog on whether or not he gonna survive, seems levi and everything afterwards just shots it immediately.

peace
seethe