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Old 10-02-2008, 11:45 PM  
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1k-ish. just from you AND the templar, not you OR the templar as on that fight. very roughly speaking of course.

and just fyi, the mob that drops rune helm is easier than even the trash in thuggah. so really, shouldn't be that far off hopefully. of course he is a greedy fucker that hasn't dropped it for me in months...wait, what were we talking about?...
That's weird that his wouldn't be around 1k as well then. I refresh debuffs always (including the hybrid mitigation debuff-dot attacks), keep Ritual of Alacrity on one of the DPS in our group, do a little DPS, don't throw heals onto other groups unless necessary. I try to keep wards up all the time but it's my role, just like the templar is supposed to keep his reactives up--I don't want to take wards down just to give him more opportunity to heal. At what point would I be considered heal blocking?

Anyways, I always heard that the mob that drops the helm is considered T4 and really tough--we're still in T1. It's good news if I was misinformed :D

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Old 10-03-2008, 12:30 AM  
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The [Rune Etched Helm] guy is about as difficult as the mobs in PR. Every raid guild can kill him.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:36 AM  
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The [Rune Etched Helm] guy is about as difficult as the mobs in PR. Every raid guild can kill him.
Oh, silly me. We killed Dreadlord D'Somni today..just realized when i read eq2i's note about him being a mage hater
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At what point would I be considered heal blocking?

Anyways, I always heard that the mob that drops the helm is considered T4 and really tough--we're still in T1. It's good news if I was misinformed :D
Eh, I don't really think there is such a thing as healblocking... maybe healing the tank when he's at 95% and you've got him fully warded, even though you have a Warden in group... That's the only example I can think of. You can never do too much healing... unless it's Phara Dar, in that case, STOP HEALING DAMNIT!!!!

And the Helm drops off trash as well!
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:18 AM  
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I wouldn't be surprised if our MT templar was using a PvP spec =\..a lot of people don't have mirrors on PvP servers for some reason. Though, I'm looking at steadfast with it's 2 second duration, how would he be able to predict when the stifle was coming?
Steadfast starts two seconds after you stand still and stays on until you move again, the description of it just isn't very good.
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Old 10-03-2008, 01:54 PM  
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Honestly, fuck a parse. There are too many variables with procs, group setup, blah blah blah for it to actually have much use. Its not a question of who heals the best. Its a question of how well the healers are working together as a team. Eventually, you and your other regular healers will find each others' rhythms and know what you can expect from one another to know what you need to do to keep everyone alive.

On named encounters, I do around 23-25% healing now. I also do around 1400 dps consistently. Why? I've got healers whose debuffs don't stack, doing 0.0 DPS, and only doing 1% healing. Which means...they're either auto-following and their heal procs are doing 1%...or they're constantly healing a fully healed tank/group and absolutely nothing else.

We have a defiler and a mystic in raid, which means the majority of our shit doesn't stack. Because I know she's going to cast it and its going to knock all my shit off anyway, I cast what I know will be beneficial and hold off on what isn't for about 10 seconds...long enough for hers to reach the end of their duration or be knocked off through damage. By the time her stuff is ready to be cast again, mine has reached the end of duration/has been knocked off through damage, theoretically giving us a constantly warded tank. To quote Tenacious D "That's fucking teamwork"

And don't be afraid to be in groups other than the MT group. That's how you learn. The other night in VP, I asked to be put in the melee DPS group and told them all to put on their chokers because I wanted to see if it was really as scary to heal as I'd heard it was (I want a choker too, dammit :P)...and you know what? I had a fucking BLAST in that group. They had to drag me kicking and screaming back to the MT group.

And coercsive healing should be on you 99.9% of the time ;) So no sad faces on dat shit. I love it as much as I love Gravitas and DKTM.
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just curious but what is healblocking? is there a time you shouldnt have wards up on the mt?

btw if your tank is predominately in the green try dropping the warden from mt grp. if ur wards hold up and u keep the mob debuffed there really is no need for that warden. a good templar and defiler can keep the grp up thru every raid instance mob.

i agree the parse really doesnt prove anything, defilers are preventive damage so will almost always top the parse whether the tank lives or dies. good healing is proved by dropping the mob without death, what does heal parse prove when u win?

on another note IMO solo healing out of mt grp is much harder than mt healing, hats off to defilers that can hang there. ive been in mt grp 99% of my raid experience and the few times ive been in a different grp its a whole new difficult world for me.
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Old 10-08-2008, 06:57 PM  
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just curious but what is healblocking? is there a time you shouldnt have wards up on the mt?
Healblocking refers to the fact that Wards register first on the parse, so if wards are constantly up, you will parse more than the other healer types given that you put out the same amount of healing.

On a mob that hits like a fucking truck and eats WAY through a ward, there is no heal blocking because the other heals are used as well. On a weaker hitting mob - just as a simple example - if all you do is chain wards, you will parse higher at the cost of another healer, however, the better thing to do in the situation may be to debuff the mob and/or dps and let the other healer(s) pick up more of the heals.

This will result in a lower heal parse for you, but overall more efficiency to the raid, since instead of two healers casting heals (since other healer is still casting his reactives or w/e even if you're healblocking), one of the healers (you) will also get more additional spells in, such as extra debuffs and extra dps, without endangering the tank.

I think any good defiler that's played for a while knows the difference between how you should cast to top the parse and how you should cast to do the most to help the raid. On plenty of encounters the two are the same, on plenty they're quite different.

The examlpe I always give is SOH trash. If you chain your wards, you'll end up with like 80%+ of the parse, if not more and your tank will never go under 90%. If you never cast a single ward, you'll end up with 0% of the parse, yet the tank will still never go under 90%. So wtf is the benefit of you chaining all those wards during such fights?

Again, it's an oversimplified example, but I think gets the point across.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:07 PM  
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ok healblocking seems lol to me then. wards are your job as is debuffing and the awesome dps that defilers put out. you should easily be able to keep wards up as well as debuff and toss in your dps on trash mobs.

imo other healers do much better dps than i do and why should i not keep wards up and let them do THEIR job on more dps than i can manage. unless i am way off and some other healer is more pathetic than we are on dps or maybe i just suck...could be either.

any healer that really gives a rats ass about topping the parse or out healing other healers is just lame to me. we all have a roll to play in a raid and ours just happens to be preventive, i wonder would a tank rather see his help bounce around or stay in the green the whole time...
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:29 PM  
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The vast majority of your DPS spells add additional debuffs to the mob. Corruption, Malis, Imprecate, Whip, and master strike (if applicable) are debuffs as well. Good to get them all in if possible to help the raid more. Granted we don't do a shit ton of DPS, but we can bring more to the raid by utilizing our dps spells.
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