Tanino

Before I start... just want to state I only have a level 74 Defiler and play it occasionally.... so I am just trying to learn the class better as I usually tank or dps.

The first question I have is why isn't the INT line used more often? I know we do not dps but from what I have seen, spell crit will help with soul cannibilize and anything else that causes damage.... which in turn usually means I have to use Cannibilize rarely as my power regen will crit.

Then on the immunities line... I am not sure on the percentage, but if you can outright prevent aoe's from hitting a certain percentage of the time for your whole group.... wouldn't that require you to heal less and therefore keep your group wards up for longer?

Last is on scourge... considering I see so many mobs out there with buffs on them, wouldn't being able to strip them of that be helpful? Maybe it doesn't work against alot of stuff and depends on what SOE defines as beneficial.

It appears that the damage shield will crit based on the amount of spell crit that the defiler has and that dps is stacked on to that of the tank.... considering how many heals are constantly going off during the course of a raid... this may add up to some pretty significant damage without having to do anything extra than your normal healing.

Please don't flame me too bad please

Dranikdoomwarder

immunities from what i have seen has more of a pvp setting. it level 80 it has a % chance to absorb level 80 aes which is fine except anything that has a hard AE , heroic or epic, is going to be higher than that, which reduces that % chance (which was already low in the first place) even lower.

not to say that it won't ever absorb ANY aes as i haven't tested it myself but that your points are best left outside the int line unless you really like / want / need spell crit

arieste

It's not used more, because there are better choices. INT line only has advantages over other lines for DPSing and since DPSing is secondary to us, most people won't use it. I personally DO use it, usually putting 448 or 488 into it depending how much AA i have available (i'm not maxed yet, so spec is constantly changing). Immunities sucks, scourge isn't worth the amount of AA it takes to get (I'd have to give up dog immunity or RoA for it). That's the short version.

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Tanino

I had never put any points into immunities or scourge due to lack of AA points; the verbage sounded good but I guess less practical in application. I solo alot of stuff and things drops extemely quickly with the int line compared to putting alot of points into agility in order to max out melee crit and get tribal rage. Spell crit was not really a thought until I noticed that the ward damage shield from the shard armor was impacted by it and that it shows up as dps for the tank...I assume aggro is assigned to the tank as well. I thought the damage shield was going to be minimal, but when I took my brawler and attacked a friends pet only.... I dropped in about 10 seconds.... this was with the T2 armor set though and he only had 1% spell crit at the time. The thought was... if I can do good damage without even thinking about it... then why not? The only thing is whether agil, sta, or wis would need to take a sacrifice in AA.

arieste

Uhm, the point of putting points into agility isn't to get melee crit or tribal rage, it's to get heal crit. Our melee sucks. If you're not planning on healing much, INT is definitely better than AGI for dps. But STR and WIS are just as good (if not better) than INT for it and don't sacrifice any of your healing ability in the process of getting them.

I've no idea about the damage shield thing you're talking about. What's the actual damage shield amount diffence from non-crit hit to crit hit?

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Tanino

I would have to see what the difference was between crit and non-crit on it to be sure. The only reason I went down agil originally was to get the heal crit, but as I already had so many points in it anyway.. I went ahead and got tribal rage to try and dps some while soloing.. and it just plain sucked. Off the top of my head right now I am agil 4,4,4,8 wis 4,4,8,8 and int 4,6,8..... then on the defiler line I went all the way down the prevention and decaying lines. So far no trouble healing or dps'ing.... but I haven't hit the hard stuff yet.

Savne

My raid only clears first two mobs in TMC for loot, so otherwise we're only raiding VP. Do you think Rustling Vine Armwraps would be more useful than the TSO pattern fabled bracers for what I'm raiding (aka no crit mit needed)?

Rayche

I just replaced the Rustling vine arm wraps with the T2 Shard armor piece. I lost 1% spell haste but gained a lot of other stats. Go for it.

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arieste

I wear rustling wine for everything except TSO named firghts with big crit AEs. Runic Cover rocks, but I already have it on the pants from VP so it's not really going to do much for me to double up... once i get TSO pants, I will switch into the TSO bracers full time.

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Valknut

in rok we always had 2 runic covers in group 60ish hps each on name fights in tso I use 2 and get 100-210 hps out of it..... unless you need the crit its not bad to have 2.

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