Defiler gear, raid and instance - Page 4

Pouncer · 10-08-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Zionn

Update it a tad since the update...

The avatar bp is a pos now, our set bp is better. Until they fix the avatar bp to have base heal, it blows balls Done! Moved it below our T4 set.

Enraged Haladen in Miragul's drops a leet healer earring, I'd post a pic but on my laptop atm. It's better than most of the earrings listed, except the zarrakon earring. Ward proc, damage increase for whoever it procs on... Just need the name of it. I've seen the link in game but when I was too busy to copy it :P

The charm of rodcet nife blows balls now too, get it off there, complete waste of that slot. Only reason I wore it was for the 10 base heal from the two good charms combined, but since that's been dropped to 3 base as well, no point. Well strictly speaking it's better than non-avatar gear IMO but I did put it at the end of the avatar charms. I'm open to discussion as to whether or not it should be removed or place lower than other charms though.

Anashti's belt is pretty sweet now for a healer as well. Needs to be on the list. Do you have the name of the belt? And are you referring to Palace Anashti?

Pilfered Void Band is better than Band of Swirling portals as well. I moved Band of Swirling Portals to bottom of list actually. Do you think the pilfered band is better than the Totem of Anhexfen?

Pouncer · 10-08-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Maciz

Is the order correct now?

Still working on it at this point, and adding stuff soon with the new zones but it's still a good reference to use for now I would think.

Pouncer · 10-08-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Exaltedmyth

This is true, but the item is still good enough to be put up for the defiler loot table

It's a pretty lousy item for defilers to have, any that are killing avatars are going to have better already IMO and shouldn't bother taking it. This is about "recommended gear" and I don't think we should recommend any defilers take this.

Then again I'm no expert by any means and all points are open for discussion. Anyone else think it's a good item to have?

Dranikdoomwarder · 10-09-2009, 12:07 PM

i agree with you pouncer about the earring.

also if anyone is interested in the byzola belt versus gynok belt i'll eventually put up here what i spewed in ww channel that one night with the real math.

basically it boils down to the proc being more useful on the byzola belt be cause it gives more + to all resists (including the physical that gynok does) because the gynok belt only goes off worn mitigtaion.

last time i checked (though this was a few updates back) no tank in the game has enough worn mitigation that the 15% is greater than the static 800 or whatever tf it is from the byzola belt.

additionally the proc from byzola A) stacks with any other healers in your group wearing one and B) the resists are helpful to all group members for any ae, not just the trauma ones

however since resists are so pointless this late in the game and most tanks are capped on shield effectiveness its really your call. i typically wear the gynok one because i have shitty reuse with my current setup, dont have zarak / neutral avy belt, and i look more l33t standing on everfrost docks

Pouncer · 10-09-2009, 12:53 PM

That makes a lot of sense, Dranik, thanks for clarifying that for me.

If anyone has the names of the items from the new zones, and where they should be ranked, please let me know and I'll place them in the OP. I think after that, and after we can more or less make a consensus as to the priority listing, I think this will be ready to be stickied if that's cool with Raz.

Maciz · 11-03-2009, 06:57 PM

How does Blessing of the Prince stack up to the other rings in game? I know the item is good, so equiping it and spamming heals to give the entire group one is good, but how good is it to equip it the entire fight? Im guessing even +2 heal crit and +50 heal amount (for example) is better?

Dranikdoomwarder · 11-03-2009, 07:58 PM

if you need the extra healing, go for it. personally i've dropped it a long time ago just bcause i knew most people were too lazy to make a hotbutton for using the dolls, and that since most people dont have very high +heals, the heal isn't even that significant.

also add in the typical defiler elite "bla bla if your group needs to use those to stay alive you suck as a defiler etc etc so on"

Notsovilepriest · 11-09-2009, 12:03 AM

\aITEM -514006784 -309406696:Essence of Renewal\/a or Health Charm should be #2 IMO. Even though health charm took a big hit, Its 5% Cast Speed and a good amount of +Healing for a charm, Bertrox barely does anything for a healer anymore with IMO.

Zionn · 11-09-2009, 02:00 AM

Health charm sucks, plain and simple. It rarely procs, and does little healing. Reason Bertox is still good is it gives casting AND reuse.

Miragul's healer charm is better than growth charm too....exact same heal bonus, but with the increased range/radius of spells, casting speed, and power reduction, it's a definite replacement.

Notsovilepriest · 11-09-2009, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Zionn

Health charm sucks, plain and simple. It rarely procs, and does little healing. Reason Bertox is still good is it gives casting AND reuse.

Miragul's healer charm is better than growth charm too....exact same heal bonus, but with the increased range/radius of spells, casting speed, and power reduction, it's a definite replacement.

Very true, Forgot about that charm out of the new one, and Totally messed up reading Bertox for whatever reason I thought reuse was CA Only, Don't ask me why...