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Sabien

Guardian, Templar, Defiler, Dirge, coercer, swashy.

I used to get mad if my power went down past 50% , so I love the mana batteries.

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oddyophile

Our MT group changes depending on the fight. Usually we roll with Guardian, Defiler (me), Templar, Warden, Dirge, Assassin.

Kisy

Well for us, since I'm in an alliance it really depends on who signs up for which raids... the main stream g1 set up is Guard, Defiler, Temp, Fury, Dirge, Coercer.

Our other set up is Guard, Defiler, Inq, Warden, Dirge and Swashy or Assassin if the Coercer is being a slacker and not coming. = )

I have noticed a lot of guilds are now going to a 2 healer set up - ASS U ME - ing that its Defiler and Templar - but I would be interested in seeing what others think. Would be good to try on an easy raid like Lab - just to see if it would work for us.

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Schalacken

I'd prefer g1 setup Guard, Templar, Defiler, Dirge/Troub, Swashy, and Coercer. Persoannly I think having 3 healers in the MT group is overrated and produce less hate for the MT. Only my opinion.

Vizion

Actually not at all, wardens buff melee skills on the MT, so since he is hitting far more often, he is producing alot more hate.

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Claria

First off, I disgree about 3 healers producing less hate, since, generally a 2 healer setup would always be defiler/templar, so the 3rd healer being the warden, and, as already said, primitave instinct allows the tank to hit more often, and therefore allows him to generate hate on his own with his own dps.

Secondly, why dirge/troub? Why would you ever put a troub in the MT group over a dirge. I mean, there are some similarities, ie dirge buffs parry, troub defense, dirge DPS, troub haste, both have mana song, all of which would help the MT. The first major problem with choosing a troub is hate. A troub will deagro all non-fighters in the group, while a dirge adds hate. If you're in a regular group, it doesnt make much of a difference if youre adding hate to the tank, or taking it away from everyone else, but in a raid, a troub would only help the tank keep it off his own group, problem being that its not the rest of the MT peeling usually, it would be the DPS, and only hate gain is going to help that. Secondly, troubs, being more caster friendly, don't help the MTs DPS at all, which is another form of hate gain. First off, CoB is melee, which adds damage to the MT, PotM wouldn't do a thing for the tank. Tombs calm vs aria, again, melee vs caster, and the MT is melee based, as would be everyone in MT group. Finally, luck of the dirge is a big help as well. Dirge yes, troub no.


Lately, in most situations, we run Guard, dirge, defiler, templar, warden, assassin (or swash, but usually assassin). On some fights though, we swap in coercer for assassin, primarily any that may be power intensive.

Idolvo

Ours:

Guardian
Defiler
Warden
Templar
Coercer or Assassin/Swash
Dirge

In case people wonder why dirge and coercer, its cause of uber mana regen, coercive healing etc. And yes we know 2 +hategain % arent usefull.

Deludar

Zerker
Dirge
Coercer
Temp
Warden
Defiler (me)

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Claria

Its not so much that 2 hate gain % arent useful, its just that hate xfer from a swash or assassin is better. If you have just pure hate gain, all you are doing is modifying the amount of hate the tank gets, which is just from his own personal DPS and his taunts. If you have, like a swash as an example, doing like 2k+ dps, in addition to the hate he gets from debuffs, and the AOE agro from hurricane, its a lot more than the extra % based hate from the coercer.

Coercive healing is nice, as well as the heal crits, if the coercer is specced for MT group, but coercers can do pretty good DPS if specced kinda like an Illy, and thier DPS buffs are nice for melee DPS. We usually have our coercer in the OT group, with a zerker, swash, mystic, templar, and whatever else we have (ideally a 2nd dirge, but not much luck findinig one)/