fanatica

Thank you all for the advice. I now think I can advise my alliance about curing and feel comfortable about the advice I give to the other healers. Much appreciated, and I hope you all have a great holiday season.

Gout

Wait, there is an issue with shaman curing?

The only class that can out cure a shaman is an inquisitor (damned clicky stick).

As pointed out a cure spec'd defiler has a cast time twice as fast on cures as opposed to any other healer. Even our group cure is faster under that spec, save the clicky stick.

You should be curing the shit out of your group and making others look bad, especially if you are just starting out in TSO, aka land of the noxious dots. As for other groups, if those healers aren't doing it, replace them. Your only obligation to cure out of group is to cure the healer in another group IF they are stunned/stifled and do not have their own stunbreak.

Also, if you arent using profit, you should be. It shows you who is and isnt being cured without ever changing your target off the MT. When you see an entire group not cured, cure ONLY the healer in it. Then scream at them to cure their group. Unless they are dead, they should be curing. Also bitch at people about pot curing. If they aren't, it better be because their pot is down.

As for druids doing it, sure, along with clerics and shaman, curing is a shared responsibility. You won't see it so much on T1/T2 mobs, but T4 mobs you will be getting hit with back to back to back dots that need cured usually within your 2 second group casting time or boom you die. Pushing responsibility to other healers means you wipe.

Failure to cure = the number one reason people die on raids. Failure to cure = the number one reason I hate PURs. Failure to cure = the number one reason dps suffers. Failure to cure = YOUR responsibility people.

Koinoo

I agree with everything you've said except the quoted part above. Unless I missed something, the stamina cure line does not affect our group cure at all. It only affects the single target Cure spell. It'd be quite nice if it did affect our group cure, though!

Berrbe

Correctttt

Perm

I am pretty sure raid wide detrimentals is a feature of the default ui.

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Ariel

Some people need it made easier to cure, other people are fine with the default. You know which one you are

Gorguk

As the MT defiler you should rarely have to cure out of group. The times you should have to do this is if it is a curse rotation, healer down/stunned/stifled/oop or similar emergency type of situation. That being said, if it needs to be done because someone is slacking do it if you feel you can keep up with inc damage on the MT. But realize most of the time you are curing out of the group because the other healers are slacking.

As far as who cures more in the MT group it is very encounter dependent. It will depend on the type of detrimental and how much damage is inc. On heavy damage fights our templar will often outcure me. But on fights where I can keep up with damage AND curing it looks like he is doing nothing. (this obviously isnt the case but I hope everyone understands the point I am making) A good templar will out cure the defiler on alot of fights (even with our cure casting speed) because they realize we are the first line of defense against inc damage. They cure first to allow us to spam wards.

Enyeto

To answer your question in short, here is the last weekly heal parse from our raids. We raid 6 hours a week: (These are just cures)


Merged(3): (0352) | 139771927 | Darkerwarrior-Bloodletter-28406 | [Darkerwarrior-Bloodletter-28406]
Cryssai_____1352 (MT Defiler)
Cronesius___1117 (Dps group, Mystic)
Jenica______1384 (MT Templar)
Enyeto_____2089 (Dps or OT, Mystic [Me])
Spondulix___1406 (Dps or OT, Templar, usually my healing partner)
Ayathain____1196 (alt Templar)
Widem______1301 (Fury)
Pixe________473 (alt Templar used one night)

Everyone in our raid looks out for their group primarily and then cures other groups if they can, or if they have time. Most of the time all effects are cured timely and is the contributed efforts of all our healers.


~and just for shits~ (about the inq out curing a shaman)
Gozak: (05:53)



Name | Healed | HPS | % | Cures]

• Cryssai 822428 | 2329.82 | 15% | 72
  Cronesius 753637 | 2134.95 | 14% | 86
  Spondulix 717988 | 2033.96 | 13% | 91
  Discoe 717148 | 2031.58 | 13% | 80
  Enyeto 686457 | 1944.64 | 12% | 108 (Mystic)
  Jenica 507170 | 1436.74 | 9% | 77
  Widem 442132 | 1252.50 | 8% | 48
  Aunavin 338337 | 958.46 | 6% | 86 (Inquisitor)

edit:changed some alignment issues as best i could for neatness

Berrbe

Cool you cure a lot, but can you sustain heals and cure? Any asshole can spam cure, but being able to maintain your tanks hp while pumping out a good number of ST cures is a lot more appealing then just numbers, and yes I see the gozak parse but thats one fight.

PS... No I'm not trying to flame.

Wonsokman

curing is for the templar in your group that gets to sit on his hands all raid long because the tank does not leave green.

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