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Old 05-15-2007, 09:00 AM  
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I was doing some thinking last night about mitigating the effects of reducing my health to 10% once I cast soul ward. I have a simple macro set up that shouts out I've cast soul ward and to please throw me a heal.

I'm toying with a few ideas and I was wondering if I could implement a more sophisticated macro which would:-
1) cast Soul Ward
2) Target myself and cast single person ward on myself.
3) Cast single person heal on myself.

I'm not great when it comes to macro's so I dont know if the above is feasible. I'm not sure that it is even sensible from a raid perspective to cast soul ward on MT then ward and heal myself.

I'm wondering what other defilers do after casting soul ward, do you just wait to be healed up or take more pro active steps? Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 05-15-2007, 09:09 AM  
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can't macro that many spell casts into one macro.

also macroing a target change in there can sometimes cause problems.

i had previously tried to macro /cancel_spellcast into my death prevention and emergancy wards... but it only works on instant cast spells. otherwise it risks canceling its self if your not casting. target switching could do the same

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: ; useability "Soul Ward" ; healme ; r Soul Ward active, heal me ; useabilityonplayer <yournamehere> <heal or ward of your choice>
alternativly use the new macro system :P

i'd also recomend just healing and warding yourself rather than trusting a macro to do it.
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Old 05-15-2007, 02:57 PM  
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When I cast soul ward --- you do in a way have to be at the mercy of the other healers in your group. I have discussed my soul ward with one of the templars we run with during raids. He actually said its not a prob for me to use it when he's in my group because he already had a macro to heal me. Said I get aggro so much he's had it for months. hehe PREWARDING FTW!

If you run with a 3 heal MT group then when you cast your soul ward the druid can usually get the tank back up while you send off a heal on the MT and the cleric heals you.

I attempted a few weeks ago to set the macro to cast soul ward, target Kisy, and cast a single target heal and it wouldn't process the heal. Yes it is possible I didn't set it right. I will try it again.

I have an extensive macro to cast my rez on folks. It has all of the single target rezes in it, but I dont have the text atm since I am at work. So there is a way to get more than one or two spells to be casted as I believe mine has 3.

I agree with Xanoth however that it is probably MUCH safer to heal yourself than to trust a macro to do it.
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:52 PM  
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I don't use soul ward in a place where I would need a heal right away, i.e. on mobs that have massive aes. That way normal group heals/regens can get my back to full at our leisure. Everyone knows not to worry once I get back to yellow health, just let regen and group heals take care of it.
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:52 PM  
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when I use soulward it is followed by a group heal and group ward. Then the group heals or I take care of it my self! It's not rocket science!!

oh make sure you are far enough away not to get AE'd or pull agro
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:07 AM  
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when I use soulward it is followed by a group heal and group ward. Then the group heals or I take care of it my self! It's not rocket science!!
No-one was suggesting it was rocket science, just looking for ideas from others but thanks for the input.

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Old 05-16-2007, 05:24 AM  
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soul ward is total crap, i mean lets be honest, the only thing that takes your tanks health low is mayong's touch, and why would you cast soulward when you can cast a cure? better put your points into something useful, is increased SoW available? Or maybe melee crits. get one of those sweet one handers off mayong, throw on a buckler of the howler, let the rapeage ensue. oh man a 24 defiler raid would be incredible. can you imagine 24 spiritual circles, what could even hurt you? oh thats right, NOTHING. 24 mayong hammer-wielding defilers beating the fuck out of othysis is a sight i want to see
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:06 AM  
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- No SoW increase is available for defilers.
- There's not many weapons that a defiler will get before all other people in the raid where melee procs will matter (my alt crits for like 200. Yippee.)
- In a 24-defiler raid, what would the STR of every raid member be?
- Soul Ward is far from crap, but can save the day. It's an emergency. It is for emergencies.
- Spiritual Circle gets owned as soon as the mob has an AE.

Good posting :P
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:04 AM  
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I have an extensive macro to cast my rez on folks. It has all of the single target rezes in it, but I dont have the text atm since I am at work. So there is a way to get more than one or two spells to be casted as I believe mine has 3.
I'm sure you created that macro and ordered it so that if rez#1 isn't up it tries rez#2 then rez#3. you can only rez one target once. so your not actually casting all 3, just one of the three.


while i don't think soul ward is quite "total crap" i do think it limited to only covering shit hitting the fan or the defiler having nearly fell asleep covering their own arse.

however the path to getting soul ward is pretty useful and due to the max hp of raid geared defilers it just seems a valid use of those 21 AA points.

for my alt however i only had soul ward for a day or two, used it a few times and decided i could live without and and took curseweaving. being my 3rd 70 toon he's not yet got enough points to get soul ward again but almost there... and tbh i'll probably respec to another line. he rarely raids (just steals raid loot) and i don't see much need for it with him
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:42 AM  
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- No SoW increase is available for defilers.
- There's not many weapons that a defiler will get before all other people in the raid where melee procs will matter (my alt crits for like 200. Yippee.)
- In a 24-defiler raid, what would the STR of every raid member be?
- Soul Ward is far from crap, but can save the day. It's an emergency. It is for emergencies.
- Spiritual Circle gets owned as soon as the mob has an AE.

Good posting :P
While I agree with Snark that soul ward is crap his points why are very true as sarcastic as they were meant to be.
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