Promise

Me being over-tired then and mistaking your guild for another then, sorry!

Ishbu

Why didnt anyone inform me that the leader of Dissolution was a defiler?


EDIT - Also, did I read correctly and someone said they like whatever line for the extra power regen so they dont need to look for that in gear? I dont know what kind of defiler your playing, but with cannibilize no way you can ever run oop no matter what gear your using.

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Claria

I hate to say this, but if you're #3 on the heal parse, you're kinda slackin..... though why would you slack at all?


I could be missing something here..... but to me youre reasons make absolutely no sense at all. One reason that your dog hardly ever dies is that you resummon it a lot??? Seriously? If someone is resummoning the dog a lot, wouldnt that mean that the dog is dying a lot, therefor causing them to resummon it, or are you used to playing with complete morons who would dismiss the pet on their own and resummon just to say it never actually died??? /boggle


Yeah, someone said they like ritual to use with Cannibalize for the extra power, which, isn't bad, but I agree with you that no defiler with cannibalize should ever run out of power, ever.

Korvac

What I meant by ritual with canna is that I never worry about it. I don't have to look for any FT on my gear, I never worry about power drains or hearts/shards/potions. Yes any defiler with canna should never run out of power, but alot of them are also sacrificing something in order to get FT on thier gear, I do not have to worry about it.

Promise

Indeed, though only the last reason could of used a bit more explanation on. First 2 is pretty straight forward and there's not much I can do to help you understand them if you don't. The last 1 basically what I was getting at is if you claim to do EoF content and that you always have your pet engage and it's always alive then in all likely hood you resummon it often.

Let's take Woushi for example, if you have your pet engaged the entire time and it doesn't die at one point during the fight I'd be shocked. I feel it's safe to say that the only way you could keep your pet from dieing is sending it in and out a lot. When you send your pet in, all the wards/immunities etc run off a percentage to go off. This percentage happens only on a successful attack. When you pull your pet out then any of the effects that triggered while the pet was in is still happening but your pet isn't generating any new effect's. Situations like this is why I was inquiring on a "pet-less" spec. I'd rather have AA abilities I get to use 100% of the time vs AA abilities I'd use 90% (very generous figure here). Then you have to consider that the "90%" of the time AA abilities still have to have the dog successfully attacking the mob and the different percentage's actually triggering.


I've actually took the plunge and respecced out of the dog (/cheer!) to give this some serious testing. Unfortunately I've only been able to test it in a few zones and not against any of the "hard" mobs. So far I'm thrilled with it, and the feedback I've been getting from the other MT healers seems I'm at least partially right in my assumption that my healing potential would be the same (if not better) while I'd be able to quick cure/dps a bit more. Not positive by any means that this is at least on par with the pet, will have to do more testing before I decide if this is the spec I want to keep.

razieh

Let me chime in here now though I think you already know my opinion. So you gave up a chance to proc group ward chance to proc AoE avoid and haste so your dog and group attacks faster... vs improved cures and a chance for double attack!!

BTW my dog stays alive on Wuoshi most of the time but like you said I call it in and out.

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nofiia

Only lazy people hate the dog. It's pretty simple to postion the dog so it's not fighting the front of a mob.

Nofiia Defiler of Second Dawn

Promise

Ya Raz I hear what your saying, I'm giving up a chance at group ward, AE avoid and haste(unless dog dies during encounter) for crit heals (100% of the time), increased DPS and quick cures (100% of the time). From what I've seen this week quick cures help a lot in a wide range of situations, crit heals > dog's group ward 100 fold and my DPS has improved a nice chunk. This all started with me beginning to wonder just how often the group AE immunity lands, coupled with the fact if the dog dies you loose it all. I'm not convinced that this AA spec is worth sticking with for high-end raiding but my initial tests looked promising. You ever try anything like this Raz or have you always been pet-specced?

Ipum

i dont speak for razieh, but i can say ive tried every line in both KoS and EoF aa's, and in KoS for a MT defiler, you just cant sacrifice the dog, you say your dog dies alot, i say you arent using him right, i can go a whole avatar fight or contested mayong and not have a problem with it, it never dies, cause i time my in's and outs, it isnt hard at all, and your sacrificing something that assists you in keeping the MT alive, for something does does next to nothing on a raid, fast cures? i can cure everything before it ever has a chance to tick as is, i dont need assistance with that, infective bites has some merit, but not if you dont have the dog line, and the unconcious hp buff is completly usesless on a mt, and your picking up all this useless stuff at the cost of group haste, ward procs and ae immunity, granted ae immunity hardly ever goes off when its needed, the ward procs alone make up for it

razieh

Are you stupid why do you keep saying you are giveing up str line for all this?
Does str line take 50 points wtf are you doing? I am agi str right now, I could be agi str wis but I dropped it because of a two hander as my main weapon.

I have had every combination of specs you could think wis int....... for example. I have done your spec, quick cures are not needed EVER if they are tell your other healers to start curing.

How were you previously speced that you only gained benefit from the str line were you str int....?

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