Kendricke wrote:
Rothgar wrote:Changing/customizing amenities should only be done by trustee's. If you have found something you can change without the trustee rank, report it as a bug and we will fix it.
It sounds to me from reading the OP's post that he wasn't aware of the new guild hall permissions on the guild ranks tab. You definitely should not have to assign individiual permissions to every person in your guild.
At some point in the future we hope to add another house rank between Friend and Trustee that will allow for better control over housing features.
The more I think on this, the more I realize it's not actually a solution at all. The problem right now isn't that a rank needs to exist between Friend and Trustee. The problem is that there is no rank between Visitor and Friend.
I want a system that allows my members to use amenities without the ability to move or customize them. Our decorators are putting in a lot of effort to make sure the rooms are set up just the way they want. All it takes is one person (out of a 90 account guild) to even accidently move a few items around and suddenly we've g6ot quite a bit of work on our hands to fix the issue. Frankly, the average member in my guild simply does not need "move" or "customize" access to any of the items in our hall - they just need to be able to use the items that are there. Unfortunately, the only way that level of access currently exists is through the Visitor level...which means I have to set all of our amenities to Visitor level as well. Normally, this wouldn't be a problem...unless you also want to allow non-guild members to be able to visit your guild hall without being able to access your amenities. You can't have it both ways - either you give your members the right to move and customize, or you give the public the same rights as your members (or you shut them out entirely).
NO CURRENT METHOD EXISTS to allow guildmasters to give amenity access to their members without also giving move and customize access to those amenities AND to allow for non-guilded members to freely visit without also giving them the same rights you're giving your own members. The suggested solution which Rothgar is proposing won't fix this issue, either.
Right now, officers retain Friends access in my guild, while the rest of the membership retains Visitor access. However, this means we've had to shut our guild hall from the public. Adding a rank between Friend and Trustee won't help...because any level that grants access to move or customize items in the hall will not be available to my average member, anyway - so we end up with another rank, but the same situation we're in right now.
I guess what I failed to mention, and wasn't so obvious, is that in addition to adding a new access level, we will look at adjusting which levels can do what. So just because we add the level between Friend and Trustee doesnt mean that Friend will continue to have the ability to move furniture.
If I can compare houses in-game to real life, this is how I think it makes sense.
Someone who comes over to your house to visit that you don't consider a friend really shouldnt be able to do anything unless you tell them its ok. If a person you barely know walks into your house and then decides to go to the kitchen and make a snack, you'd think it were rather odd. But if you tell them its ok, they should be able to do it.
You invite friend's over to your house, but you would think it was odd if they started moving furniture things around. However, you don't mind if they go to the fridge and grab themselves a drink.
A steward is someone you who works for the owner of a house. He would have access to move things around and probably place items, but you would think it odd if a butler or maid walked out of your house with a chair.
A trustee would be like a member of your family. They have the ability to do anything you would do in a house.
Nothing is set in stone yet and we have no specific date when we can add the additional rank. But this explanation seems like a logical way to go.
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(Rothgar) Re:Re:Re:Guild Halls Permissions Issues (fix needed badly for these)
