(Rothgar) Re:Re:Shader 3.0

[Official Forums]

Gimbel@Permafrost wrote:

Yeah, they are going to use Shader 3.0 as a selling point for the expansion I bet.

This is not the case. In fact, we can't really use something as a selling point for the expansion when everyone gets it for free without buying the expansion.

We've been doing some internal benchmarking on the Shader 3.0 implementation and we still have a few major challenges with the lighting system. The new shader system looks great and it performs very well in certain circumstances. However, there are still common situations that players would run into where the framerate takes a significant dip compared to Shader 1.0. We know why and we know how to fix it. So that's the good news. The bad news is that it will take a little more time to do it right.

The lesson we've learned here is that we shouldn't communicate a release date on such a large project, so far from completion. But we've also learned from past issues that we don't want to release something that doesn't meet our own expectations. We'll certainly keep you informed in regards to our progress.







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[kiho4260]

Originally Posted by Official Forums

Gimbel@Permafrost wrote:

Yeah, they are going to use Shader 3.0 as a selling point for the expansion I bet.

This is not the case. In fact, we can't really use something as a selling point for the expansion when everyone gets it for free without buying the expansion.

We've been doing some internal benchmarking on the Shader 3.0 implementation and we still have a few major challenges with the lighting system. The new shader system looks great and it performs very well in certain circumstances. However, there are still common situations that players would run into where the framerate takes a significant dip compared to Shader 1.0. We know why and we know how to fix it. So that's the good news. The bad news is that it will take a little more time to do it right.

The lesson we've learned here is that we shouldn't communicate a release date on such a large project, so far from completion. But we've also learned from past issues that we don't want to release something that doesn't meet our own expectations. We'll certainly keep you informed in regards to our progress.







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so what your saying is:

'This wont be a selling point for the new expansion. But it wont be ready when we told you because we have been working on this huge GU coming. instead this will be release with the expansion, so if you want it buy the next game.

P.S. will look into adding in a SC tolken to activate shaders 3.0 if you dont buy the expansion.'

seriously? I really think imago-quem is the only dev thats worth anything, but really. no worth while updates to an MMO for almost 6 months. nice.

[Slippery]

Are you fucking retarded?

[Crabbok]

Originally Posted by kiho4260

so what your saying is:

'This wont be a selling point for the new expansion. But it wont be ready when we told you because we have been working on this huge GU coming. instead this will be release with the expansion, so if you want it buy the next game.
No, he JUST said everyone gets it for free weather they buy the expansion or not. Reading Comprehension ftw.


P.S. will look into adding in a SC tolken to activate shaders 3.0 if you dont buy the expansion.'
Again, Shaders are a free update.

seriously? I really think imago-quem is the only dev thats worth anything, but really. no worth while updates to an MMO for almost 6 months. nice.
First off, Rothgar is probably the best dev that SOE has, and second off, where do you get 6 months? you just making up numbers now?

[kiho4260]

September to February is only 5 months. thats my mistake (im not counting a plethora of changes to things that dont really add/change game play. some mob scripts have changed so they dont repeat. grammatical errors. woo). its early here yet so you must not have picked up on what was an obviously failed attempt at some satire about the SC.

[Slippery]

How much content did you get between RoK and EoF?

[kiho4260]

TBH i started playing just after RoK, so i cant really comment on the EoF expansion. but with so many delays in content im just frustrated that they have to push yet another feature back (would wrather it be pushed back than released with bugs though). but i do know that once imago get done with the update its going to look nice, jsut wish they would put more effort towards usefull stuff wrather than the stuff thats coming in this next GU

[Crabbok]

It boils down to what you consider a meaningful update vs what someone else wants. There are many many people that do not play this game on a hardcore mode. Many casuals, RPers, Social players and others. A very large number of people put alot of value into a change that makes the games graphics and lighting look better.

Also, this change is supposed to put alot more emphasis on the GPU, so when it's done, everyone's game should actually run better.

[kiho4260]

thats what im saying. this is an awesome potential update and the fact that instead of something like this as a GU we get grammer and mob script fixes. i would think nearly everyone would want the GPU graphics boost over the scheduled lame update thats coming.

[EQAditu]

I'm struggling a great deal to not put as much sarcasm as I can into this. But really... I don't think you can compare graphical engine devs with ones that fix spelling mistakes on page 9 of some book. Probably can't even compare the ones that design/fix scripts to the ones that have to mangle the game code those scripts run on.

It's like asking the mail guy of some company to do the IT work because they're behind on getting the servers backed up for an upgrade. The mail guy might have some experience on their own time, but they are neither expected nor trusted with the job.