Kall

It only affects spells, not CAs that deal disease damage.

kyros

excellent. thank you for the answer.

Draggoz

All I have ot say is WTF. If you are in MT group you should never have your self buff up as long it takes a con slot.

Draggoz

WillyWonka

I don't have my selfbuff up in raid, ever. what I meant is by using pots either the str or the int.

kyros

i used to be able to...

would have a coercer for hate and power, so i'd have room for tomb's and my self buff. group str and agi wasn't needed, and for killing trash the extra damage to tombs and my own dps (my int was pretty low) was better than the parry buff.

but, those days are over since the coercer hate buff got changed.

Allania

eh i would rather give the group more strength and agi then just myself some agi and int. If you give everyone. 116 (if down aa line) or 80 str thats between 480-696 str your giving out; not to mention that with agi which is a lil bit of power for you but also around 2% avoidance to the tank which means that 2% less that the healers have to heal and 2% more they can attack. If you thought about it and figured it out that extra to everyone is far more beneficial then the lil extra to you usually.

pagansaint

Power Regens stack. Don't drop it unless you are dropping it for riana's against trash.

So what out of Tomb's, Disso, Hyran's, PoS do you drop to put your self buff up?

By the way, choosing any of those is the wrong answer.

EDIT: If in a DPS group, swap Hyran's for Riana's and don't have to worry about dropping Bria's.

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kyros

hyran's, and here's why:
there is an effective cap of +50% hate. which means, that any amount of +hate over 50% will not count. with the coercer's old 42%, the extra 8% didn't make any noticeable difference. i tested it, and the tank didn't have any problem keeping aggro, so it wasn't an issue. thus, i was doing what i could to maximize raid and personal dps without hindering the raid's performance.

also, when my mt group was running with 90+% power consistently with just the coercer doing regen, why should i bother casting mine?

so you're telling me that running useless hate and power buffs is a better idea than running what will maximize my dps and the dps of the raid?

i'm sorry you don't agree. like i've said, i couldn't drop hyran's now because they changed the coercer buff. i'm not really asking for what you think is right, just discussing how i used to do things.

i suppose, and it depends on your group. it was usually the case with our MT groups that we didn't need any more STR buffs. AGI for the group would also be pretty pointless... if the tank needed avoidance i'd have been better off running parry. it wasn't a matter of not having anything else useful to cast, but picking what i thought would be of the biggest benefit overall. i tried a bit of everything, and it didn't seem to matter which i picked. also, keep in mind that your INT affects the amount of damage that the tomb's proc does, so there was some benefit to the group from it.

pagansaint

Hyran's before was iffy, added a bit of strength, the Extra hate gain did make a difference though for any sort of AE fight and raid DPS over 35k.

Power buff is only useless if your healers just sit there and don't DPS/Debuff, they need the double regens to keep heals, debuffs, cures and nukes/CAs going chain pulling. If you are waiting for everyone to get high on power between pulls, yeah I could see dropping it for trash, like I said makes sense to pick up Riana's.

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kyros

the span of time during which i was going without, it was only hate and aggression.

it depends a lot on your raid. mine worked without it, so i didn't use it.