WillyWonka

Well RoK is still in Beta.. so anyone in Beta, that's a Dirge anyway, is hopefully bitching and moaning to the Devs about this stuff. so that by some small miracle it's changed before being released and the Dirge class becomes a figment of everyone's imagination.

rukkis

My dirge is only level 24 so obviously I dont know too much about whats going on in the upper end, but what would be wrong with that buff? Is it just that it is passive or that you dont want to buff heals at all.

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WillyWonka

Both actually.
Dirges have 2 Reses, 1 crap Heal and a Ward IF they put AAs into it.. It's my belief anything a class can buff should have equal benefit to the class Casting it as the class it's targetted on. For example; the Dirge group buffs all, for the most part, are good and have their advantages for the Dirge as well as their Group. This new Buff.. i see no advantage at all for the Dirge.. our weak Reses are buffed a bit and our shit heal is a little less shittier.. yay? A buff like this should be on a Paladin imo.
And as for another Passive Buff.. yay for making us more of a buff bot!

personally I was looking forward to a little dirge loving in RoK.. maybe us actually getting some boosts. Then comes this cherry.. kinda makes me want to go back to my Ranger (as boring as that is...) least I heard their Sniper Shot is getting upgraded :s

Morgaise

I agree, as much as maybe it will be beneficial to the mt, ot or melee group on raid. . .it still sucks balls.

As with most of the dirge community I'm against more shit that gives us more potential as an afk buffbot class.

I'd rather see something that we're needed for that we have to DO. Something where, if I were to afk, people would notice was missing.

I mean, my roomate is a 70 dirge as well, and we were discussing this new spell today, and the usual bard vs other classes thing came up.

Healers, obviously if one of them ninja'd during a fight everyone would notice.

Tanks, unless its some noobsauce raid with like 8 tanks, if a tank ninjas, people will notice.

Rogues, Predators, if they ninja, their parse shows it, or there's too many AOEs (TS rogues) and people notice.

Bards, we ninja afk and we still can put out a moderate amount of dps and no one notices. At the end we could still get the "hey you did you're 1K-ish dps, /thumbs up /pat on head." Maybe I just suck at dirge dps (i've only been playing one in raid for about a month and half so far) but on yesterday's contested mayong kill, our troub was purely ranged, and I mostly jousted and we parsed pretty much the same. Again, maybe I just suck, but seriously, the difference between afk ranged and jousting melee is not THAT great, not as great as it should be for the slack vs work ratio, imo.

I mean, cmon SoE. Give us something, anything that will really set us "real dirges" apart from our lazy afk-buffbot counterparts.

My roomie and I were discussing something interesting, similar to the existing HO system, but specifically designed for bards. Where instead of only a few combinations, there could be like a 10+ combo wheel that only we see/get/affect, and the more of the combos we land successfully the better the effect, we were saying something like it amps our songs that are running for xxxx time or something.

Anyway, I'm probably just wasting forum space as usual. tbh nothing i've said here probably hasn't been griped, /feedbacked or discussed before. I'm bored and felt like posting.

Have a nice day all you other Harbingers ; )

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Ajeco

We don't know ANY details about this spell other then that it has a 32% increased healage buff, assuming the OPs resources are correct, and all of you are already bitching about it taking a conc slot and being a passive buff...

For all we know, this buff might work like JC.

Kungao

hmm i hate the idea but it might become neccesairy in RoK, because they were thinking about putting crits back into the game for epics (were they ever in? mehh) and crits = 30% extra damage which 32% healing boost should nicely cover now if it only DOES NOT USE a conc slot sigh

RogueFrequency

This is incorrect. One of the afore mentioned classes gets that. One gets a high dmg single-target nuke that requires up to 5 mages to be close by. One gets a nuke that does dmg in a line toward the targeted enemy hitting everything in the path.


This is partly true, but not all of them get something that useful. Be glad you aren't a bruiser or SK.


No... think enchanter str line final, counterblade. Raid-wide bladedance for all practical purposes. I honestly feel like betraying just to get a skill that I can cast at some point other then when I am rebuffing.


BTW, don't bother reporting me, I'm not in the beta, hence under no NDA. I just have anonymous friends =)

Paikis

It's about *&^%ing time we got something useful. Sorry you Dirges seem to have been screwed this time. Maybe get the Dirges (yes, all three of them!) in the Beta to kick up a storm?

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RogueFrequency

lol honestly dude, if you think an increase to heals, wards, and rezzes for our group is being screwed, then you are going to be really butt-hurt when you realize your new ancient is only useful on raids. This will just make groups want dirges even more then troubs now. This will also help with duo farming with healers as well.

Nevertheless, I wish it wasn't a passive buff and would have to be recast or something. Anything but a passive group buff, sigh.

Abie

heard that spell is not passive, and does not require conc slot