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Old 10-14-2007, 02:19 PM  
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We don't know ANY details about this spell other then that it has a 32% increased healage buff, assuming the OPs resources are correct, and all of you are already bitching about it taking a conc slot and being a passive buff...

For all we know, this buff might work like JC.
might like wot ajeco said

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Old 10-14-2007, 03:08 PM  
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even if it is like jester's cap, it's still a retarded spell.
oh great, let me be the angry bard that empowers HEALING.
THAT makes a lot of sense.
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:33 PM  
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even if it is like jester's cap, it's still a retarded spell.
oh great, let me be the angry bard that empowers HEALING.
THAT makes a lot of sense.
/agree

I'd rather it be opposite.. if anything. forces target to take 32% more damage.. short duration. moderate cast time.. that would be handy. but seriously increasing healing, as a dirge.. could they make less sense? Besides you already have a Paladin who has a raid-wide buff that boosts Wisdom & Healing.
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even if it is like jester's cap, it's still a retarded spell.
oh great, let me be the angry bard that empowers HEALING.
THAT makes a lot of sense.
riiiight, hey but since we're all about roleplaying - why not just strip you of all your buffs. I mean, what's the point? You should only be debuffing and causing dmg right? I mean that's what an "angry" bard does.
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Old 10-14-2007, 06:50 PM  
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riiiight, hey but since we're all about roleplaying - why not just strip you of all your buffs. I mean, what's the point? You should only be debuffing and causing dmg right? I mean that's what an "angry" bard does.
of course we couldn't sing songs that fill our allies with rage and increase their damage and fighting abilities.... no way.
shut up. i never said that it should be looked at strictly from a "roleplaying" perspective, but i do believe that if they're going to create a flavor for a class they should stick to it. what's the point of a fantasy setting, calling it a roleplaying game, or creating storylines and lore if you're going to ignore all of that?
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:11 PM  
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I'm just saying that bitching about a buff that has utility and increases effectiveness of healing due to "making sense" for what you construe is the image of your character is retarded. With that frame of mind you guys should not have percussion, you parry song, mana regen, rez ability, etc...

Be happy with the utility that you're given as it appears it won't be completely passive and still VERY effective.
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:52 PM  
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i'd rationalize those abilities for you, but it wouldn't matter.
and it's not some junk i made up about what the class is, it's what all the little description texts at character creation and the eq2 site say.

"dirges play songs of despair, misery, and lamentation that invoke intense fury and aggression within the hearts of the allies. the dirge can use music to inflict great despair and longing in enemies, demoralizing them so completely..."

of course, fury, aggression, and lamentation make me want to stand back and heal harder... right, right.

it's stupid. there's no precedent for dirges to be good for buffing healers... why should they expand the role of the dirge instead of strengthening its area of expertise? please tell my why the watering down of class definition, regardless of how awesome you think the ability is, is a good idea that will enhance the game. the fact is that class definition is watered down enough, and there really is no need for 24 to begin with. worse though, that now they're expanding roles instead of solidifying them. soon to be 4 expansions and multiple combat revamps, and they still haven't made any great progress in identifying the classes and making them truly unique.

even more importantly, though, is that it's just a lame ability. most dirges, it seems, were hoping for something that bolsters our dps or offensive skills, instead of just another lame buff. (effective, maybe, but lame nonetheless) ...this would have been the perfect opportunity to, say, give bards some sort of non-concentration stance-like ability.

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Spell should be like jesters.. but not heal mod, damage mod ftw..

Force Crit Next Spell/CA..

Increases Allies Spell/CA Damage by 20% for 30 secs...
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I don't know, I think I would rather have a spell that was more functional then aligned with the lore. more than half of the dirges out there are mt/ot group and this would seem like a great buff to have. If the issue is the passive part and/or the concentration I can understand but it seems to be something I would be looking forward to.
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