T8 Dirge Parses - Page 3

Dants · 01-02-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WillyWonka

Also with the poison AA, i didn't notice a big change in proc rate from having 1pt in it and haveing 4pts in it.. and since I don't have the aa change item yet i'm still running pvp spec in raids (maxed parry, near maxed block, max DA, rhythm blade, all down wis line). Anyone else really see a big different between 1-2pts in Poison and 5-8? Just doesn't seem worth it to me, figured once I raid spec i'd be better dropping 5pts from Parry into Turnstrike so I don't have to joust AEs.

The big gain from having 8 in poison is that the initial hit does more damage than the ticks.

So with 8, not only does the poison do a bit more damage, it will proc more which will allow more initial hits, upping the average damage for poison.

I don't have any numbers, but I'd guess the extra 7 AA to get it to 8 would be worth around 40-50 DPS.

Yssis · 01-03-2008, 07:35 AM

No bladedance, no debuff line... My raid leader would kill me. Kall, are you always in MT group?

For me, i assume that i'am not a rogue, and my job is to help over to do more. I debuff, i got bladedance. Our last thuuga, i was the only regen mana in tha groupe, no illu or coercer, i can't go over 1k2.

(and i got NO master, if some one has seen a master chest recently, or got a screen of it, please, post it, i don't remember what a master looks like....

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Kungao · 01-03-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WillyWonka

I actually raid in partial lv.72 MC gear. because with the upgrades to it i have around +250CA +300spell damage in raid gear.. +16%DA (26% with boots proc), about 19-22% melee crit, i think roughly 50dps mod (60 with the temporary +10 adorn). but my weakness is Haste.. still only have about 25-26haste. which is why I want freakin rapidty! putting it on the tank /sigh

Also with the poison AA, i didn't notice a big change in proc rate from having 1pt in it and haveing 4pts in it.. and since I don't have the aa change item yet i'm still running pvp spec in raids (maxed parry, near maxed block, max DA, rhythm blade, all down wis line). Anyone else really see a big different between 1-2pts in Poison and 5-8? Just doesn't seem worth it to me, figured once I raid spec i'd be better dropping 5pts from Parry into Turnstrike so I don't have to joust AEs.

about getting rapidity, just ask them to cancel their groupwide powerbuff

, its useless 99% of the time anyway with double regen if (s)he didnt already do that

Kall · 01-03-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Yssis

No bladedance, no debuff line... My raid leader would kill me. Kall, are you always in MT group?

For me, i assume that i'am not a rogue, and my job is to help over to do more. I debuff, i got bladedance. Our last thuuga, i was the only regen mana in tha groupe, no illu or coercer, i can't go over 1k2.

No debuff line? I have Degredate although it's not like it's anything special.

I'm in the MT group. Last night we ran 3 healers, Guard, Assassin, Dirge so I had no buffs from anyone and put up 2k zonewide in Tomb of Thuuga.

Kall · 01-03-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WillyWonka

I actually raid in partial lv.72 MC gear. because with the upgrades to it i have around +250CA +300spell damage in raid gear.. +16%DA (26% with boots proc), about 19-22% melee crit, i think roughly 50dps mod (60 with the temporary +10 adorn). but my weakness is Haste.. still only have about 25-26haste. which is why I want freakin rapidty! putting it on the tank /sigh

Some of the 72 MC gear should be on the list I just don't feel like changing it so when raid loot gets changed I have to change it again. It's pretty decent the problem is when you use more than 1 or 2 pieces your HP really starts to take a dive due to the lack of STA on all of it.

Yssis · 01-04-2008, 04:50 AM

my apologize, my english is to bad... With assassin, you recive apply poison? that's a great buff!

Degredate is also good for your mana, i've got some trouble with my mana.

Another question: Is your trouba's dps higher than your? the same? less?

Kall · 01-04-2008, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Yssis

my apologize, my english is to bad... With assassin, you recive apply poison? that's a great buff!

Our tank had it to help with aggro, although I usually get it.

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Originally Posted by Yssis

Another question: Is your trouba's dps higher than your? the same? less?

About 200 higher in T1-T2. In VP it's like 500-700 higher. His group is better than mine but my gear is slightly ahead of his. All things equal Troubs are ahead of Dirges and disparity starts to widen significantly as the mob's level increases past 85.

ChimpyEvans · 01-05-2008, 05:44 PM

Where is your int around in a group like that? I've been comparing parses and while I can nearly match your melee hits, your spells are hitting on average 100+ more than me, and things like Luda's are tons higher than mine.

Kall · 01-05-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChimpyEvans

Where is your int around in a group like that? I've been comparing parses and while I can nearly match your melee hits, your spells are hitting on average 100+ more than me, and things like Luda's are tons higher than mine.

510 I think? I use my bp as part of the 3 set so that's an additional 160 to luda's. As far as the rest of the spell damage, maybe our brig gets his debuffs on sooner than yours?

I was also using the Doom bracelet so that's another +17 (maybe more with debuffs) also.

Edit - Now that I'm thinking about it I was probably using the choker since those zones are a joke. That's probably why!

ChimpyEvans · 01-06-2008, 04:45 AM

Ya I saw that when I was checking you over. I'd definitely use the chest too if I had 2.0's bracers. Could never get the choker since noone ever does shard of fear around here.

Execution TR is an awesome place for bards to parse. Death barrier wouldn't be doing 2% of your dps if you were fighting any other mobs. Gotta love those multi-hit low recast ae's. If I ever get anything respectable going when I get some good weapons I'll see what I can do to contribute.