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Old 01-31-2008, 09:31 AM  
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trying to decide between fish embroidered gloves and the gloves of impetuous strikes.

i actually never thought about spell damage til i say the fish gloves on the best gear list and i see the value there (im a tard i know) but the impeuous ones get me the 3 piece bonus. i could still get it by using the shoulders instead of gloves but the shoulders arent that good compared to the shoulders i have (+dps, crits and maybe da i forget)

so how important is double attack and how important is spell damage. i got a lot of regearing to think about maybe

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Old 02-01-2008, 05:44 AM  
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I "think", but I am not sure that for a dirge :

Spell Crit > Melee Crit > Double Attack
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:33 AM  
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Default Re: spell damage or double attack?

Imo its...
Melee Crit > Double Attack > Spell Crit > CA/Spell Damage > Ranged Crit/Ranged Double Attack.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:23 PM  
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It's 2% Double Attack > 2% Melee Crit (if mob != orange) > 7 DPS Mod > 7 Attack Speed > 2% Melee Crit (if mob == orange) > 45 CA Damage > 2% Spell Crit > 45 Spell Damage > 2% Ranged Double Attack > 2% Ranged Crit.

This is assuming you're at 0/0 for everything.

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Old 02-04-2008, 02:58 AM  
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jesus fuck Kall, put that calculator away and start having fun.

(eerrrr, I mean WOW, thanks for that brilliant piece of info)
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:14 AM  
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Crits > DA... always.

Melee crits affect auto attacks AND combat arts. Double attack will only boost autos.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:13 AM  
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for assassins its litke that, but as dirge I'm in believe that our autoattack is so much more to our dps than melee CA's cos we have so much spells too
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:31 AM  
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Assassin, guardian, swashy, its all the same mechanic for auto attacks. I guess I should have elaborated why crit > da tho...

RoK has made it much easier to obtain high delay (big spread) weapons. However, their potential is great only when they crit (when coupled with a decent DPS mod). Its night and day between a hit for 400 and a hit for 2000.

Auto attacks alone, 50% crits will provide more dps than 50% double attack.

That a 50% guarentee you weapon is gonna hit for max (critical) compared to a 50% chance your weapon is going to hit twice. However, with double attacks it can easilly (and it will) hit for the low amount on the spread.

The only time DA > Crit is when your rocking an obscenely fast (and small spread) weapon where a crit will never exceed the worth of 2 hits... even if both hits are on the low end of the spectrum.
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:17 PM  
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Assassin, guardian, swashy, its all the same mechanic for auto attacks. I guess I should have elaborated why crit > da tho...

RoK has made it much easier to obtain high delay (big spread) weapons. However, their potential is great only when they crit (when coupled with a decent DPS mod). Its night and day between a hit for 400 and a hit for 2000.

Auto attacks alone, 50% crits will provide more dps than 50% double attack.

That a 50% guarentee you weapon is gonna hit for max (critical) compared to a 50% chance your weapon is going to hit twice. However, with double attacks it can easilly (and it will) hit for the low amount on the spread.

The only time DA > Crit is when your rocking an obscenely fast (and small spread) weapon where a crit will never exceed the worth of 2 hits... even if both hits are on the low end of the spectrum.
Kall stated in another post that, especially for dirge, when you start missing too many hits (lets say orange con I suppose), crits are no more "more important" than DA because you can miss a hit (so miss a crit) when you can DA on a miss...

Another fact is that I'm sure I've seen many times that my CAs can DA too... (for that bow CA we dirge have, it should hit two times then root target, and I see it hitting a third time quite often and it's not a proc).
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CAs cant double, what your seeing is your autoattack hit right after the CA.
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