ecoskii

Main is a healer (mystic). As a healer you really don't do anything different depending on whether gravitas is on you or not ('hmm gravitas on... suppose i might as well heal/ward someone...!'). I'm not that keen on getting a /tell either as we use that for co-ordinating casting of bolster etc between mystics on a raid and I use the sound of the /tell.

No problem with using ACT and separate timers etc but may complicate your lives overly.

On my dirge alt I use the long macro and just sort them into a semi-sensible order depending on who is on the raid and the group makeup.

Samedai

The other dirge in my guild and I were just having this discussion last night. The rotatioon of Gravitas was something that was necessary when RoK raiding first started, for survivability on new content, but with our progression and gear these days it's more of a situational thing. We have a guild dirge channel where we send all of our stuff to, rezzes, gravitas, CoB, so that it activates timers and we know which healers are immune at any given time. Now, Gravitas gets applied to whichever healer needs an extra boost on their tank, rather than a constant rotation.

_Anonymous_

Has anyone seen the new immunity timer for JCap / Gravitas?

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Vuetee

could just stick to good old check it yourself only takes a couple of clicks to check gravitas immunity, click them in raid window, click gravitas, don't bother putting a macro on it.

Personally, I would like to run a dirge channel for our guilds raids that says when CoB has been put up or who has been gravitased...also that way i could make an extension to my program to put a gravitas immunity counter on people, but that's out of reach atm.

useful post tho, maybe take a look at downloading expresso if ur getting into ACT triggers.

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Orani

Best to ask your clerics and shamans if notifying them of gravitas is on them before you assume this notification is not useful. When given a choice between spells, my raid guild shamans and clerics told me the gravitas gives priority to certain spells. So, i'm gonna continue to notifying them when gravitas is cast on them.

There's a major drawback with macro text; the text is still submitted even if the spell is not casted successfully so just don't assume the priest or whoever has gravitas even if the text says it.

Samedai

exactly why it's a good idea to set up gravitas immunity timers in ACT. that way you're not wasting time trying to cast a spell that won't take hold, and the healer doesn't think they've got a boost that hasn't happened yet. my guild uses a dirge channel for gravitas so that the dirges know every healer in the raid's timer on immunity. that way we can direct gravitas to the healer that needs it most at any given time, and also make sure that they're not immune when we cast it.

Orani

Sorry, you misunderstood. I'll try to clarify thru example. Dirge1 uses macro to start casting Gravitas and the text is instantly submited to whichever channel; Dirge1 is instantly knockbacked and/or stunned for possibly up to 5 seconds (which to some is quite a while). The Gravitas cast never successfully casted but the channel states it did cast. Since ACT timers use this same text, the ACT timers can be screwed up as well. One would assume Dirge1 would return to successfully cast Gravitas. I'm just being annoying as hell by pointing out the obvious big flaw in macro text so ignore this if this aggravates ya to the heavans. LOL!!

I find assigning Dirges to be responsible for an entire group(s) to be more reliable and less chaotic.

Samedai

aye, i've definitely had that happen plenty of times. macro timers definitely aren't perfect, but i suppose it's better than nothing at all. i know the healers are glad they don't get spammed with tells anymore.

Orani

Well, your healers are glad to not receive the "spam". I would love to put all the stuff in a macro with zero macro text involved due to this expediency. I say do whatever your healers want. I asked my raid crew's clerics and shamans if the /tell was helpful; the response was that the /tell was not needed and was helpful. so /shrug

vdain

Greetings and Hallucinations,

I might add that if you raid, what I have found very, very useful is that I have 3 to 5 macro's (depending on raid makeup and how many dirges your raid leader brings along) and each macro tells a set target they have gravitas except I put a number at the end of the word gravitas. Such as "XXX tells you: You now have Gravitas1!", second button has "you now have Gravitas2", etc, etc. Then in ACT I setup a trigger to look for the word Gravitas1, gravitas2, etc and give me a timer for each. I then have the TTS call out Gravitas1, Gravitas2, Gravitas3, etc. when the timer expires. That way I can hit the corresponding button without even looking down at the bar to refresh gravitas. (have them assigned to 1,2,3,4,etc of my third hotbar so CTRL+1, CTRL+2, etc push the corresponding macro - Yes I'm a keyboarder...hate the mouse)

If i"m the only dirge on the raid then I can keep gravitas rolling on as many healers as I wish (MT healers get priority of course), if there's more than one I coordinate which healers I'm responsible for and which ones I'm not.

If you don't want to spam the person just send the tell off to a self-made channel and it will still work.

Also, if you have a shadowknight tanking you can throw gravitas on him and it works with their heal procs. Works wonders if he pulls half the zone at a time like most SKs do.

-V