Casting Order Help - Page 15

Ultimaomega · 08-25-2009, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlix_Oasis

Autoattacks are not considered

Are you fucking retarded? He mentioned himself that the autoattacks weren't included because you have to be a damned retard to need that including in the cast order. It's not that hard to time it yourself. Do we need to hold your hand?

razieh · 08-25-2009, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kall

I'm done responding to your crap. Step back for a minute and read what you're posting. It's fucking sad...really sad.

The people on this forum can decide who won this argument. If you want make a poll, I don't give a fuck.

It's impossible to win a debate when your opponent is incapable of realizing defeat.

This is how I feel on the avatar nerf thread! It is a shame one of the few people that agree with me is vlix, he only makes me look worse. T-T

Lint · 08-25-2009, 04:55 AM

I think a lot of dirges who frequent these boards have started with Kall's baseline cast order and evolved it to suit themselves. Hey in fact Vlix started with it too. When Kall first posted it I spent some time of the KJ training wall (these were before Guild Halls if you don't go that far back Vlix).

I worked out a routine based off of it that suited me and went from there. But then thats because I have a brain and am able to think for myself and don't need someone to post <autoattack> into the equation - especially when peoples haste/caste haste can vary wildly depending on buffs and gear setups. Some people might only be able to get 2 casts off in that time, others may get 3 - I'm sure people can work out how to time autoattacks - especially as we have nice UI mods that shows us when they're going to trigger nowadays.

Anyway Vlix, if you think its so bad, perhaps you want to post your cast order and amaze us. At the moment all I see is a critic and you've yet to actually show us why your the better dirge than Kall.

Perhaps after cast order you can then modify Kall's loot thread because I'm sure you can do better there too...

Ultimaomega · 08-25-2009, 06:13 AM

Also, I'd like to see Vlix post a parse in the parse section of the boards. I want to see if he can actually do anything to back up what he's talking about.

As a side, looking through that section again was kind of funny to me. Amazing how far the dps has come for a lot of the dirges here.

Ballads · 08-25-2009, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by razieh

This is how I feel on the avatar nerf thread! It is a shame one of the few people that agree with me is vlix, he only makes me look worse. T-T

I love how he talks about how tyranny has kept avatars locked down on his server for 3 years in that thread. Now thats bad ass, to lock down a server 2 years before you even form a guild.

Vlix_Oasis · 08-25-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lint

I think a lot of dirges who frequent these boards have started with Kall's baseline cast order and evolved it to suit themselves. Hey in fact Vlix started with it too. When Kall first posted it I spent some time of the KJ training wall (these were before Guild Halls if you don't go that far back Vlix).

I started with it because I jumped in 1 day to play a guildmates level 80 dirge cause we didn't have one. I used his to start until I had time to figure out my own and know what all the spells do. So yeah Kalls casting order got me through the first days of playing a dirge. Once I knew what the spells do, I knew it was shit. Not hard to understand that.

I didn't use it as a base as you and other loves to point out. Mine looks nothing like his and no you won't see it. Why would I when you can't see what the fuck is wrong with his. I am glad you think its awesome, makes me feel pretty smart. You is holding whos hand now??

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Originally Posted by Ultimaomega

Are you fucking retarded? He mentioned himself that the autoattacks weren't included because you have to be a damned retard to need that including in the cast order. It's not that hard to time it yourself. Do we need to hold your hand?

Where did I say put in <autoattack> into a casting order? I only used it in the post to make a point. Pretty simple if you can read and understand. What about using Mitigation buffs during Dispatch? Yeah that's awesome too and Lanet's, what an amazing spell.

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Originally Posted by Ballads

I love how he talks about how tyranny has kept avatars locked down on his server for 3 years in that thread. Now thats bad ass, to lock down a server 2 years before you even form a guild.

wow history lesson for those who don't know shit about oasis. Tyranny is Paradigm reformed with a new name. Sorry I didn't include that fact for you.

Vlix_Oasis · 08-25-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultimaomega

Also, I'd like to see Vlix post a parse in the parse section of the boards. I want to see if he can actually do anything to back up what he's talking about.

As a side, looking through that section again was kind of funny to me. Amazing how far the dps has come for a lot of the dirges here.

WTF would a parse have to do with a Kall's incompetence with his own posts?? The only one I have left was a clip for a guildie awhile back. If you want to see it I will post it but it doesn't prove anything. It was before I had any good gear and was just a few mobs in palace. All old Palace parses logs have been deleted. My highest I believe was 12k ZW there. However, I don't believe this has anything to do with the subject so prove why it does before I bother.

Oh and if someone decides to be lame and pick at this thread, I won't bother. I have proved my point and I am tired of the derailing with this shit. It is a waste of time.

thedeuce · 08-25-2009, 11:10 AM

ty kall for putting up with crap to help us out. i used your casting order guide and i spike over 10k and average about 7-8 with my 4 piece tso. good stuff

edit - added name

unrest.bardarnit

Lint · 08-25-2009, 11:14 AM

You say Kall's order sucks and that yours looks nothing like it - yet the only part you highlight for being poor is:

bump => sod => shriek blade => stealth => misfortunes kiss (I know a mixture of old and new names) which Kall showed he can time without delaying an autoattack. I think it would be tight to fit 3 CA's in with the amount of lag that seems to be prevelent nowadays but I'm sure I could do it.

Whats wrong with the rest of it then that you need one that looks completely different? All I hear is a lot of I know I'm better but I won't tell you why, this leaves me to think you're full of shit and grasping at straws.

I'm indifferent either way, I think Kall has done a lot for the dirge community, but the essence of Flames has always been if someone is speaking shit call them out. You've tried to call Kall out but so far you're not proving your case against him.

thedeuce · 08-25-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlix_Oasis

WTF would a parse have to do with a Kall's incompetence with his own posts?? The only one I have left was a clip for a guildie awhile back. If you want to see it I will post it but it doesn't prove anything. It was before I had any good gear and was just a few mobs in palace. All old Palace parses logs have been deleted. My highest I believe was 12k ZW there. However, I don't believe this has anything to do with the subject so prove why it does before I bother.

Oh and if someone decides to be lame and pick at this thread, I won't bother. I have proved my point and I am tired of the derailing with this shit. It is a waste of time.

i've seen kalls parses. He doesn't need to prove himself.