Lint

Swindlers luck refresh. As the HO gives a better quality buff if you use higher level spells to complete it, when you complete the same HO with lower level spells it doesn't refresh and you get the will not take effect message instead.

rukkis

Is it spell quality or level?

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Lint

EDIT: Nm I was wrong - see Kall's reply below.

Kall

It's level not quality.

flaunt

Hey Kall - as simple as this may sound - have u proven that having bump on the agi line defo comes out with more dps?

I have gone for the STR option with turnstrike
simply because the time SoB recast, so its easy enough to just have shroud + with the 5 points in shroud line on AA's i believe that thats enough.

I mean dont get me wrong im nearly always in the 4k+ parses in MT group, whichever raidzone - i have tried both - i just prefer Turnstrike , i can see why u should go for bump but when i tried the change i didnt see any difference in my parse .

Kall

Why wouldn't it?

It's simple logic - you have 2 high damage stealth CAs and 1 way to get in stealth. Once you up the 1 way to 2 ways, you can use those CAs more often and your parse will go up.

Also they do the same damage but bump is half the recast as turnstrike.

flaunt

Yup i know what ur saying and i do see the logic :p

i will try again as i have better gear now from when i tried it last time so the aoe avoidence from turnstrike isnt as important as b4

will let u know on the outcome - if i ever get back into a raid guild lol.

Scottish

I like to think of it as my offensive stance lol.

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Sigrid

If CoB is being cast on the countdown aren't you losing prescious seconds of it being up?

Auxx

Not if you time it right for the pull so you can immediately go to a ranged weapon.