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Old 07-29-2008, 10:44 AM  
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I see your point and we don't have the problem with reflects either. Our tank hasn't armor made of toilet paper like guilds do who just arrived at T2. So if my debuff got reflected on the tank, it isn't a big issue. For other guilds/forces it might be.

Worsest scenario: Tank gets the poison DoT from Venril, is feared and has to rely on a cure from healer --> MT dirge lands a debuff over Time on Venril, got reflected --> Debuff cured --> DoT still on the MT --> Wipe.

Thats why I stated earlier don't cast them unless you know what you do. If you don't understand 100% of the encounter better be on the safe side.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:33 PM  
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The only spells that actually matter that can get reflected are power drains and no one should be using them anyway.
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:31 PM  
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When we first started clearing Venril the troub and I had this same problem. We were randomly dying because our power got too low and we couldn't figure out why, but after lots of experimenting, here's what we found: take off your self buff. When it procs, it bugs and does very nasty things to our power. If that happens when you have the debuff on then you wipe the raid. It doesn't bug everytime, but I know once we started doing that raid without our self buff on we stopped killing everyone.

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When we first started clearing Venril the troub and I had this same problem. We were randomly dying because our power got too low and we couldn't figure out why, but after lots of experimenting, here's what we found: take off your self buff. When it procs, it bugs and does very nasty things to our power. If that happens when you have the debuff on then you wipe the raid. It doesn't bug everytime, but I know once we started doing that raid without our self buff on we stopped killing everyone.

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Old 08-05-2008, 10:45 AM  
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When we first started clearing Venril the troub and I had this same problem. We were randomly dying because our power got too low and we couldn't figure out why, but after lots of experimenting, here's what we found: take off your self buff. When it procs, it bugs and does very nasty things to our power. If that happens when you have the debuff on then you wipe the raid. It doesn't bug everytime, but I know once we started doing that raid without our self buff on we stopped killing everyone.

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Hmm, its very early and i didn't sleep at all last night. But, huh? Self buff proccing? It doesn't proc its a constant power increase per tick, i don't understand. I had no problem , i had all kinds of regen gear on. I had just macroed sprint twice and it took a 10% power each click. If you dont get cured other then the noxious(which you should do yourself), that really isin't your fault. imo anyways
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Hmm, its very early and i didn't sleep at all last night. But, huh? Self buff proccing? It doesn't proc its a constant power increase per tick, i don't understand. I had no problem , i had all kinds of regen gear on. I had just macroed sprint twice and it took a 10% power each click. If you dont get cured other then the noxious(which you should do yourself), that really isin't your fault. imo anyways
Power Ballad is a group buff, not a self buff.

Death's Edge is our self buff, and it does proc, but I still don't understand how that has anything to do with losing power and wiping the raid during this fight.
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Power Ballad is a group buff, not a self buff.

Death's Edge is our self buff, and it does proc, but I still don't understand how that has anything to do with losing power and wiping the raid during this fight.
Also fear is not a damaging attack so I find it very unlikely the fear would proc it even if it it was bugged. If its the AE it should only proc once per AE which unless its bugged so its constantly draining power or drains some huge amount also shouldnt matter.

Is there anything in your logs to support that its draining your power somehow? If not how did you come to that conclusion?
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