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Orani

Would also be interesting if, in this thread or another thread, someone would explain the bane procs. I was told that the greater vampire bane can possibly do up to 2.1k dmg per second and the greature void bane even higher. The stickied parse thread sure has proven that the ban procs do insane damage. Gonna be interesting after the change to them with the big update if it ever comes. heh.

therealclintv

The reason higher spread makes a difference is because of the way that crits are calculated. Skip this if you know how the mechanics work:

If your weapon does 150-250(200 avg.), your crits will be 251-325. The game calculates the normal damage, multiplies it by 1.3, and then bumps it to your weapons max dmg+1 if it is not already higher. So on the above weapon, any regular hits from 150-193(43%) will be rounded to 251. The other 57% of hits will be 252-325(avg. 288.5). So your average hit should be around 272( 251*43% + 288.5*57 ). That is roughly a 36% increase in damage. Now lets run the stats on our mythical, 73-411(242 avg.). It crits for 412-535 rounding up hits 317 and below(72%). The average crit will be 429( 412*72% + 473.5*28% ). That is a 77.3% increase in damage on crit. The majority of the bonus in crits comes from rounding to the max damage. When our mythical proc is up, we already have that benefit. This is also a good reason to focus in on the max damage of a weapon.

Orani

therealclintv, thanks man.

I understood the first couple sentences. Can you clarify some of your variables? Are 43%, 57%, 72%, 28%, 272, 429 arbitrary numbers? If so, why was 43%, 57%, 72%, 28%, 272, 429 chosen? I'd like to understand this. I don't understand the equation syntax.

Vuetee

cheers for some good posts guys, will read through more thouroughly throughout the weekend and update...

gna try get a clump of information on about deities too, especially since Anashti Sul come out.

ty all

Vuetee

Hydde

Great Post, the recent changes have made a real difference.
Good Work

Kall

I skimmed through it briefly.

There are a bunch of errors still, most are mechanics problems like last time and I saw a couple logic flaws.

I'll make some more detailed comments later.

Good work though with the pictures. They add a nice touch.

Samedai

some really good improvements to the thread. you can save time on the next section by linking to here http://www.eq2flames.com/dirges/2171...tas-you-3.html

i've posted up quite a bit on setting up ACT for monitoring the other dirges' CoB, as well as for a dynamic gravitas timer.

Kall

You should make a note on some of your durations that you have the drum/bracers equipped which is upping some of your screenshot durations by 10%.

Not true. The M2 one has M2 resistability where the 72 M1 has M1 resistabilty. The difference is unnoticable but there is one. The only spells that generally scale with resistabilty are stuns and stifles.

Misleading. There is nothing more important than SoB when in melee range except maybe a 12-Toned Grim Strike.

This makes no sense. When you increase the duration of Speech, you are increasing the intervals the heal is going off which makes it less potent. In other words, the spell still heals for the same, it just takes longer. The only time extending the spell is useful is if you have your TSO 2 set, but even then it's extremely lackluster.

This isn't how the CA works. Either the first hit hits, which in this case the second hit immediately follows and hits at 100% and starts the DoT or the first hit misses and the second hit and DoT never goes off.

You shouldn't use this ability if there's only 1 mob. You probably shouldn't use it if there's 2 mobs either unless you're loaded with hostile/any attack proc gear. The rare case in which you should use this on singles is on a pure ranged fight when everything else is down.

Bad advice. You should have 5 AAs in Strengthened Links so this should really always be up now.

This is misleading, too. Spell melee procs and item procs except weapons proc off the main hand only so if your hit rate is 100% with your offhand and 0% with your mainhand, you won't proc anything. Also your statement is pretty obvious, I'd remove it and add something like the INT from Death's Edge helps contribute to increase YOUR proc damage from Calm, but not your group's.

Those people are retards don't mention this. The AA is complete crap and the INT line is far worse for Troubs than it is for Dirges.

6% proc chance permanently? Where did you pull this from?

It's actually 172 since BC costs 2 points.


Done for now. Maybe some more in a few days.

Orani

Kall, how ya mean? With Death's Edge activated, my Dead Calm proc gives 462-770 so I asked my bud in my group what it says it is giving him and he said 462-770. My bud in group has tremendously less INT stat.