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Old 03-22-2009, 11:09 PM  
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Also, tanks enjoy fighting in offensive stance. Offensive stance debuffs the tanks combat skills so this is one reason why tanks want Weapon Boon since they want it to maintain hate easier in offensive stance.
If I remember correctly, offensive stances (for both tanks/rogues/predators) do buff weapon skills (slash/pierce/crush) but debuff their defensive skills... So you could have the Parry song up instead of Boon if you really need to help your tank for smth.

At the opposite, defensive stances debuff combat skills and buff defensive skills... Then they could ask for Boon to help them keep their aggro by not missing swings.

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Old 03-23-2009, 07:46 AM  
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Ok, so assuming I need to put hate on the tank, which other buffs (ignoring AA ones) should I run in tank group on a raid?
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Old 03-23-2009, 08:23 AM  
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maybe you could read some things instead of asking questions covered in multpiple threads allrdy?

Anyways, with 2 set VP bonus:
1 : hate
2 : Stoneskin (freebee then, otherwise drop last buff)
3 : DPS
4 : Boon
5 : Proc
6 : str
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:28 AM  
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Bah, damn my mind was jumping around; thinking one thing and I wrote wrong. I definitely admit to this without hesitation and no doubt. LOL!!

Yerazankha, you are exactly right.


(my Dirge's in-combat skills without boon song)

My boon is M1 with zero AA enhancement giving 35 to combat skills; so with boon, it'll be 547p / 570s.


(this is my bud's combat skill out of combat with no boon song in the MT group)

So with Swindler's Luck (+28 p/s/c) and boon song, my bud's in-combat combat skills would be 594p and 610s.

I asked our MT what his in-combat combat skills are in defense stance and no boon song. Bah, I forgot to take a screenshot; best I can recall is that his combat skills were around 470. If ya want a reason for Weapon Boon, then activating Weapon Boon will benefit the tank in defensive stance much more than others since the tank is below the soft cap.

Combat skills soft cap is 6.5 x characterLVL; I have no idea how the 6.5 constant was determined. Soft cap is a relative view point where folk determine the per point benefit is not great. Eventually, there's a point where ya receive extremely little benefit per point; I don't know if 600 would be at this point or not. I think this also could be an accepted justification to not AA enhance Weapon Boon.

At least for me, I thought all of this was interesting so figure I'd share.

Then again, I read that 6.5 x chrLVL is the Hard Cap. Ugh!! I don't know what to think. heh

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Old 03-24-2009, 07:36 AM  
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maybe you could read some things instead of asking questions covered in multpiple threads allrdy?

Anyways, with 2 set VP bonus:
1 : hate
2 : Stoneskin (freebee then, otherwise drop last buff)
3 : DPS
4 : Boon
5 : Proc
6 : str
Read as much as I can find, not seen that.
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:34 PM  
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I bet that I can find at least 10 threads below this one mentioning it....if I cba...which obviously you can not either.
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Old 03-24-2009, 08:03 PM  
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basically i would put boon up most of the time. as for the formula orani, will come up with one by tomorrow hopefully, with the main variable being the tohit% ofc.
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I bet that I can find at least 10 threads below this one mentioning it....if I cba...which obviously you can not either.
cba being the standard defence for being a fuck wit.
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In regards to my previous post, I should make note that those numbers is what I gathered WHILE being in the MT group consisting of Guardian, Swashbuckler, Coercer, Templar, and another healer; the other healer was a Defiler or Warden I can't remember which.
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:39 AM  
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maybe you could read some things instead of asking questions covered in multpiple threads allrdy?

Anyways, with 2 set VP bonus:
1 : hate
2 : Stoneskin (freebee then, otherwise drop last buff)
3 : DPS
4 : Boon
5 : Proc
6 : str

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Read as much as I can find, not seen that.


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cba being the standard defence for being a fuck wit.

could have thanked me for the quick reply. Instead you want to talk semantics with me.

CBA as used here by me means: So fucking easy even a lazy moron like you could have done it.

but since it seems even this challange is above you....I will post the links below. Please send me hugs kisses and much applaus as thanks this time...I demand it.

1 : http://www.eq2flames.com/dirges/21623-maximizing-dps-questions-6.html
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2 : http://www.eq2flames.com/dirges/38843-aa-distribution.html
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3 : http://www.eq2flames.com/dirges/36097-tso-aa-s-dps-spec-your-thoughts-3.html
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4 : http://www.eq2flames.com/dirges/35134-int-line-vs-agi-line.html
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5 : http://www.eq2flames.com/dirges/29328-raid-aa.html
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6 : http://www.eq2flames.com/dirges/33688-gear-aa-help.html
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7 : http://www.eq2flames.com/dirges/31332-my-dirglieness.html
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8 : http://www.eq2flames.com/dirges/29709-aa-tree.html
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9 : http://www.eq2flames.com/dirges/28643-newer-dirge-need-aa-advice.html
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10 : http://www.eq2flames.com/dirges/12838-rok-aa-build.html
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