REALLY noob question

Kin Meds tbh · 04-12-2009, 09:01 AM

What's the difference between attack speed and haste? iirc you can only have only haste item, no?

Lint · 04-12-2009, 09:43 AM

Haste (on an item) doesn't stack with itself, attack speed stacks with everything

Kin Meds tbh · 04-12-2009, 11:45 AM

Thanks. So haste speeds up auto attack, and only the item with the most haste counts as it doesn't stack - so what's attacks speed?

Pinski · 04-12-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kin Meds tbh

Thanks. So haste speeds up auto attack, and only the item with the most haste counts as it doesn't stack - so what's attacks speed?

Same thing, except it stacks.

Yerazankha · 04-13-2009, 03:10 AM

Haste is the name of a common proc that simply gives a bunch of attack speed.
Haste items dont stack. Only the highest is taken into account.
Other attack speed bonuses (items with +x attack speed or buffs) add to the total attack speed value.

And oh, attack speed diminishes the delay of your weapons.

Kin Meds tbh · 04-13-2009, 06:54 AM

So it's bad then? For crits?

Dusty97 · 04-13-2009, 06:59 AM

Incorrect. The reasoning behind slower weapons usually being better for crits is because slower weapons tend to have a higher max damage, meaning a higher crit damage. Attack speed / haste is always good. High haste + crit + slow weapon = lots of hard hitting crits.

Orani · 04-13-2009, 11:54 AM

It's just not about the max damage of a slower weapon. For crits, it is about having a high max damage AS WELL as a smaller damage spread. A slow weapon with a big damage spread have a bigger pool for the crit random damage number roll generator to determine whether a critical hit uses just the MaxDmg+1 critical hit or uses the CritMultiplier x Damage roll for the critical hit; it takes whichever is higher according to the damage roll. Kall submitted a very informative post about this in the New old question thread.

Haste and attack speed in combination are awesome to bring down the weapon delay of those slower weapons so you have more opportunities at a possible chance to trigger a critical hit; also, slower delay means ya will have more opportunities at a possible chance trigger double auto attacks that can possibly critically hit as well

Haste items give tremendously more attack speed; I think this is why it was implemetned that Haste mod items do not stack. The attack speed attribute comes in small increments on a per item basis and this is why I think it was allowed to stack.