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Old 06-01-2009, 09:12 AM  
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So I logged on test this weekend to check out the new GU 52 changes. Usually I can get a good feel by just reading the notes but I was bored and figured I might as well check it out for myself.

First, which fucking morons voted on our spell names and why did they choose some of the most retarded options we have? Here's some examples:

-Grim Strike -> Misfortune's Kiss
-Weapon Boon -> Songster's Luck
-Weapon Elusion -> Jael's Mysterious Mettle

So it's like every option has Boon in it but Songster's Luck so let's pick Songster's Luck so now the standard naming convention most of us use is completely fucked again.

This is purely a cosmetic change, but it's one of those things where you log in, look at the spells, and think "what the fuck!?"

On to more important stuff, the proc changes.

Items that are going to lose a shit ton of value:

-Drum of the Ethernaut Chronicler: If you use this item, like most of us do, start searching for a replacement ASAP. Get Stormbringer, get a Zarrakon bow or satchel because this item is going to become a grade A piece of shit in GU 52. The proc damage is obviously nerfed, but now 0 item proc durations are extended. So all this is going to do is extend shit that doesn't need to be extended. (For Troubs reading, this isn't a big deal because of your lack of DoTs and an OP mythical proc).

-Necklace of the Plague: Obvious reasons. Base spell damage loses a ton of value because it's only going to modify like 8-10% of our damage instead of like 25-30% like it does now. Not going to be leaps and bounds better than the Murky Choker anymore.

-Charm of Innoruuk: Anashti is still going to be the 2nd best charm for us even getting hit hard because the Hate Charm gets hit harder. Bertoxx and War Charms get affected the least by these changes and I would probably place War only slighty behind Anashti and ahead of Hate now.

Brock's Thermal Shocker/Behavioral Modificatinator Stereopticon - Brock's becomes 99% useless now since it won't crit or proc stuff anymore. The tinkered deaggro item becomes 100% useless now.

Damage Proc items that don't lose much value:

-Murky Gemstone Choker/Silvered Link Chain: The proc damage/duration already has "cannot be modified except by direct means" on it so it currently isn't being modded by Base Spell Damage on Live right now. Just going to lose spell crit damage from this.

-Signet of the Ethernauts: Same as above.

-Circling Globes of Dark: Same as above.

Just a small heads up on what to expect if you normally don't check Test out.

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Old 06-01-2009, 11:24 AM  
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-Grim Strike -> Misfortune's Kiss
-Weapon Boon -> Songster's Luck
-Weapon Elusion -> Jael's Mysterious Mettle

So it's like every option has Boon in it but Songster's Luck so let's pick Songster's Luck so now the standard naming convention most of us use is completely fucked again.

This is purely a cosmetic change, but it's one of those things where you log in, look at the spells, and think "what the fuck!?"
Are the icons the same at least? That would piss me off far more than a name change.
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:28 AM  
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Are the icons the same at least? That would piss me off far more than a name change.
Yeah just the names are changed so like Weapon Boon is like Songster's Luck V.
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:38 AM  
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Brock's Thermal Shocker/Behavioral Modificatinator Stereopticon - Brock's becomes 99% useless now since it won't crit or proc stuff anymore. The tinkered deaggro item becomes 100% useless now.
Brocks is still win (still crits, uses base damage etc), as it isn't a proc, and is unaffected by these changes. I tested it a number of times on test copy, unless it got nerfed over the weekend or something.

Edit: Here are a collection of parses from the training wall on test copy the other day. Note that Brock's still crit 4/4 times and is still a decent amount of damage, whereas all procs suck ass.




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GU52 is going to suck.
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:54 AM  
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Brocks is still win (still crits, uses base damage etc), as it isn't a proc, and is unaffected by these changes. I tested it a number of times on test copy, unless it got nerfed over the weekend or something.
That's good news at least.

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I guess proc stuff is still true though. I kind of assumed it got lumped in with all the item procs.
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Old 06-01-2009, 02:17 PM  
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has anyone seen how the Signet of Betrayal is looking on test? with it doing up to 5% of the parse, it's worth dealing with the occassional aggro issues, but if it's nerfed all to hell, it might be time to replace it.
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Old 06-01-2009, 05:01 PM  
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gutted much, are all spells being assigned a roman numeral for how advanced the spell is?
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Old 06-01-2009, 06:28 PM  
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has anyone seen how the Signet of Betrayal is looking on test? with it doing up to 5% of the parse, it's worth dealing with the occassional aggro issues, but if it's nerfed all to hell, it might be time to replace it.

Given SoE's record:

Nerf the damage, increase the taunt amount, and break the deaggro again.
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:54 AM  
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has anyone seen how the Signet of Betrayal is looking on test? with it doing up to 5% of the parse, it's worth dealing with the occassional aggro issues, but if it's nerfed all to hell, it might be time to replace it.
It's a static 1125 damage proc. They also added the description to it that it can "randomly betray the wearer" which is like a 1% chance to jump you up 1 threat position, but that has always been there.

It's still the 2nd best ring in the game.
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