RogueFrequency

Once a dirge gets 3 pieces of Requiem, he/she can keep CoB up a third of the time if I am remembering correctly. CoB procs on every attack. Why is longer delay better?

Pinski

Because of cast time of abilities. Longer cast times means you have more space between auto-attacks to use your longer casting abilities.

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Firza

+ weapons (and i mean the best of them) with longer delay have huge critical hits. get 2-3 of those within cob time and youn will have done more/even dammage.

Deleterio

and the longer the delay, the higher the Proc % chance is.

Dirge of Death

Yea mostly what Pinski and Deleterio said: More time to cast CAs/Spells between auto attack swings, thus less disrution of auto attack on longer casting spells, and better chance to proc with each less disrupted swing.

Disruption in this case referring to auto attacks being pushed back as a result of long casting spells and auto attack speed under haste modifiers

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RogueFrequency

Thanks. I knew about the proc rate aspect, but hadn't thought about CA and spells delaying the auto-attack swing.

Do CAs proc Blade Chime btw?

Kall

Yes.

alaya

as the proc rate is normalized over time i don't really get why a higher rate per hit would be any better, could someone elaborate?

Johnny.

You lose swings due to CA's and spells, hence, lower delay, more swings, more swings lost, less chance for procs to go off.

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Deleterio

A proc that is 1.8x per minute will proc 3% of the time off of something that takes 1 second to cast (i.e. Combat Arts and 1 sec. base delay weapons and 1 second cast time spells) it will proc 6% of the time off of a 2 second base delay, 9 % of the time off of a 3 second delay and 12% of the time off a 4 second base delay. Knowing this, let's say you pick a 2 second delay weapon (Proc % of 6%) Fully hasted you can get this weapon to like .8/.9 seconds (Because of the haste cap) So you then have a .9 second delay weapon procing 1.8x per minute procs 6% of the time, but say you get a 4 second delay weapon you can get that down to 2-ish seconds with the haste cap, you then have a 2 second delay weapon procing 12% of the time. (wow those ratios are identical!)

Let's say you land 80% of your attacks. So in 100 seconds with a 2 second weapon you hit 100 times (Fully hasted) land 80 of your swings and then you'd proc 4 times (4.8 to be exact but you can't proc .8 of something). With a 4 second weapon you hit 50 times (fully hasted) land 40 of your swings and then you'd proc 4 times (same thing). WOW it really is normalized. I've never really done the math like that before, but it sure does feel like the longer the delay the more often (in the long run) it procs (not only on a percentage base but also on an quantity base)