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Originally Posted by Saihung23
Hrmm...
For my part...I think a cop is paid to protect and serve...him giving some schmoe a ticket for "littering" by tossing a half inch filter out the window does not fit my definition of protect and serve.
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It does to me.

Not to sound Lisa Simpson here, but it adds up, subtle though it may be.
I hate the "who gives a shit" mentality smokers get about their own litter - people who would never throw a coke can or soda bottle out a car window, toss their cigarettes out without a thought & it adds up, not to mention the risk of fire. Hell, you can use an empty cigarette box for an ashtray in a pinch, just toss the butt in there, close it off so it gets no oxygen and poof, it goes out.
Riding a motorcycle behind these people gives you great perspective of why pulling them over is a GREAT thing. Usually butts hit the ground and bounce, but the odd one...
Here's a cigarette butt fire just getting going:
That was some stupid kid at a park.
For me, personally, other than the fun of being evacuated out of your home, I can't think of how many times I've gone hiking out here, found a gorgeous overlook and spent the next hour cleaning up all the cigarette butts & beer bottle tops around it because a collection of assholes decided to toss their shit on the ground whilst enjoying Mother Nature. Big fat WTF.
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Go try to solve one of the many murders that are happening everyday...usually at least twice.
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LOL yeah but...your average traffic cop isn't a detective, forensic scientist, and FBI agent all rolled into one.
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And I am not advocating people to ignore seatbelt laws...simply saying, if thats all you have in regards to probable cause to pull me over...then you have NO reason to pull me over.
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It's an inconvenience and sometimes downright stupid, I get it - but it could also be viewed as doing *exactly* what you're saying they should do - how many times is there a random traffic stop and the driver turns out to be drunk or high, etc?
My husband got pulled over at a speed trap a couple years ago doing 5-10 mph over the limit and arrested over someone's typo in the DMV database. They had him mixed up with a felon. Oops! BUT, as much as that sucked... it was a routine traffic stop that they "caught" someone THEY thought was a felon. Not their fault the DMV boned up.
So I understand the sentiment. Things are sometimes just plain fucked up and lame. At the same time, I understand that there may *sometimes* be more to it.
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Now keep in mind...I could have gone out of my gate, got a $75 ticket for not wearing a seatbelt and then gone another 30ft and picked up a hooker.
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Literally? Is it possible that the seatbelt check was not um...just a seatbelt check?
