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Old 04-04-2008, 06:13 PM  
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And it's bad enough that if we go anywhere to do any sort of help for a country outside of our own, that bleeding heart liberals whine about us being imperialist and that we should just mind our own business.
I don't recall them whining about us handing out food, medicine and other kinds of aid to countries that need it. I'm gonna go ahead and guess it was the act of deceiving all of us to overthrowing a nation's government, with the preparation and planning found in a 4th science project, that has American panties in a wad.
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:08 PM  
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Parading land-mine victims in a pageant to reward one as a winner rather than celebrating the fact that ALL of them came through it alive with any sort of dignity. You're right, let's applaud that.
The winner gets a prosthetic limb.

"All the contestants will receive governmental help to go back to school or to start a small business."

Horribly unethical, giving one person a prosthetic limb while everyone else has to muck about without. Why not just send them off to Disneyland while you're at it - send everyone else pictures of them frolicking with Snow White.

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Old 04-04-2008, 08:37 PM  
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Parading land-mine victims in a pageant to reward one as a winner rather than celebrating the fact that ALL of them came through it alive with any sort of dignity. You're right, let's applaud that.
Your lack of comprehension is amazing. What they are doing not only benefits them personally (free prosthetics/government assistance) they are helping others by getting more publicity/aid/money to help clear the mines fields.

By the way, what is dignified about getting your fucking leg blown off and surviving it? The dignity of these ladies comes from the fact they they refuse to be shoved out of sight like something to be ashamed of. They're doing something to try to prevent more people from being hurt like they were.
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:51 PM  
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Quantify your reasoning or don't fall back on the highly Democratic "you're just wrong because you are" logic heh.

Not that he's right, but before you go telling him to prove something you should make sure you don't make the same error of stating something without proof, i.e. his logic being flawed, heh.
Nice try, but Hexus is the one making declaritive statements and presenting them as fact. The burden of proof is entirely upon him.

I will tell you that I've wasted enough of my time arguing with waterheads around here that I'd rather saw my dick off with an olive fork than try to prove a negative to another one.

He's also the one who brought my name up, and unfortunately that's not enough to prove to me he's worth the effort.

You can thank Laodaron for this policy later.
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Old 04-05-2008, 01:14 AM  
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I was more saying that because I made some kind of broad generalization about politics that you might poke your head in the thread and pick it apart than I was asking you to do so.

Cheer up Otis!

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Old 04-05-2008, 01:47 AM  
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I'm liberal and I don't think landmine victims need a beauty pageant

Hyper conservatives seem to be doing a good job making the word liberal the new "that's gay"
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:41 AM  
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They don't need a beauty pageant, they need to not be blown the fuck up in the first place. The pageant is just a way of dealing with the fact that they were blown up and that more are being blown up every day while trying to live peacefuly. The pageant gets publicity which brings in money and people to help clear the mines. It's a good idea.

It's nice to live in the U.S. where violence isn't usually the first choice of method to solve a problem. We aren't often exposed to the kind of life people in third world countries live everyday. I've been to Iraq and Bosnia. I've seen first hand the results of the violence. I've even dealt it out to those that deserved it and I'll never feel bad about it. However, most of the victims of the mines in Africa are not combatants; they're just people that have the misfortune of living there. They're women, children and men just trying to take care of their families in peace.
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Old 04-05-2008, 11:10 PM  
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If I recall correctly, the majority of the victims of landmines...ever...has been civilians.

Regardless, my initial point stands, that this is nothing more than a publicity stunt for the issue and nothing less.

Regardless, bringing publicity to it isn't suddenly going to motivate a country that is already weary of war into stopping the people who plant them or helping those effected. Especially when it comes to Africa.

What have we done for Darfur? How much of that was in the news? Be realistic.
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Old 04-05-2008, 11:59 PM  
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The U.S. is the only country that can help them, right?
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